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    Smile until / up unntil

    I d like to ask when you use until and up until.
    Im not sure in this sentence - Until/Up until the Second World War, there was more farmland than now
    Thanks for your help and suggestion

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    Re: until / up unntil

    Until is fine on its own. You do not need "up".

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    Re: until / up unntil

    You were also asking about the usage and any difference in usage.
    'up until' is used in conversation, and semiformal speech/writing.
    You won't go wrong if you stick to just using 'until'.
    If you do wish to use it, it would most often be found when we are stressing some cut-off point in time eg
    "He has up until the 31st January to get his job application in."
    "Up until early May at least, don't plant any seedlings because of the continuing risk of frosts."

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    Re: until / up unntil

    Google Scholar search
    Results 1 - 10 of about 225,000 for "up until".

    Results 1 - 10 of about 15,100,000 for "until".

    Standard google

    Results 1 - 10 of about 74,200,000 English pages for "until".

    Results 1 - 10 of about 1,450,000 English pages for "up until".

    It's obviously a collocation that's available for use, Petr. It's suggested by some that it means the same as 'until', and it does but its nuance is more emphatic.


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