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    Help Me Show Ownership?

    I am trying to figure out what shows possession.

    Katrina's House?

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    Katrinas' house

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    Re: Help Me Show Ownership?

    Here's the general rule:

    In most cases, you simply add 's to the noun or name:

    Adam -> Adam's book
    the man -> the man's bike
    Katrina -> Katrina's house

    If you have a list of nouns or names, you only add 's to the last item on the list:

    Peter, Paul and Mary -> Peter, Paul and Mary's greatest hits

    The exception to this is if you have a plural noun with an S. Then you only add an apostrophe:

    the girls -> the girls' mother

    But if the plural noun does not end in S, you add 's in the usual way:

    the children -> the children's clothes

    There is a difficulty with singular nouns (usually names) that end in S. Some people say you should only add an apostrophe, others say you should add 's:

    Mrs Simms -> Mrs Simms' teeth or Mrs Simms's teeth

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    Re: Help Me Show Ownership?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I am trying to figure out what shows possession.

    Katrina's House?

    or

    Katrinas' house
    A little addition to the previous answer: in your examples, the capitalization of the H makes no difference to the ownership. So if there's only one Katrina involved, you could have either "Katrina's house" or "Katrina's House"; the second one is unusual but possible.

    And if several people called Katrina all own a single house, then it's "the Katrinas' house".

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    Re: Help Me Show Ownership?

    Quote Originally Posted by rewboss View Post
    If you have a list of nouns or names, you only add 's to the last item on the list:

    Peter, Paul and Mary -> Peter, Paul and Mary's greatest hits
    To add two more things: (I just read about this rule)

    To show joint ownership, each of the nouns can takes the possessive form too. So, you can also say: Peter's, Paul's and Mary's greatest hits.

    This can be ambiguous, though more context added could make it clear - as each noun takes the possessive form when showing separate ownership. So, "Peter's, Paul's and Mary's greatest hits" can also suggest individuals' greatest hits.

    However, this generally applies to written AmE but Bobk or other BrE speakers could comment on that.
    Last edited by retro; 21-Dec-2007 at 03:46.

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    Re: Help Me Show Ownership?

    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    To add two more things: (I just read about this rule)

    To show joint ownership, each of the nouns can takes the possessive form too. So, you can also say: Peter's, Paul's and Mary's greatest hits.

    This can be ambiguous, though more context added could make it clear - as each noun takes the possessive form when showing separate ownership. So, "Peter's, Paul's and Mary's greatest hits" can also suggest individuals' greatest hits.

    However, this generally applies to written AmE but Bobk or other BrE speakers could comment on that.
    I'd expect, in Br E, to see just 'Peter, Paul and Mary's greatest hits. I'd expect to see each term having its own "'s" only if everyone involved had a solo career. This is rare, but possible.

    In the '70s, for example, Bert Jansch and John Renbourn recorded together [so there may have been a 'Bert Jansch and John Renbourn's Greatest Hits'], but since the early '80s they have recoded separately. In cases like that, it may be necessary to distinguish between 'Bert Jansch and John Renbourn's Greatest Hits' and the more recent albums 'Bert Jansch's and John Renbourn's Greatest Hits'.

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