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    smartraja Guest

    Usage of "said" and "told"

    Hi All,

    I have glanced through the posts and all the replies were encouraging. I'm sure this is the right place to learn English.

    I dont know the correct usage of "said" and "told".

    Pls tell me when and where i have to use "Said" /"told"


    I told him(Sam) that Ron will come tomorrow ( correct?)

    "Ron will come tomorrow " i said to Sam (correct?)

    can i use like this :

    I said that Ron will come tomorrow ( here i want to inform the listner that i have told this to Sam)


    Thanks in advance
    Smartraja

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    Re: Usage of "said" and "told"

    Quote Originally Posted by smartraja
    I told him(Sam) that Ron will come tomorrow ( correct?)
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by smartraja
    "Ron will come tomorrow " i said to Sam (correct?)
    Correct. But don't forget to capitalize the first person sigular and put a comma after 'tomorrow.' :)


    Quote Originally Posted by smartraja
    I said that Ron will come tomorrow ( here i want to inform the listner that i have told this to Sam)
    If you want to express the idea in your parentheses, here are some alternatives,
    ==> I've told Sam that Ron will come tomorrow. ( This sounds the best)
    ==> "Ron will come tomorrow," I said.
    ==> "Ron will come tomorrow," I said to Sam.


    Your original sentence would make me think you are giving an opinion. And this is different from what you wanted to say.
    ==> I say that Ron will come tomorrow.
    ==> I think that Ron will come tomorrow.


    I think someone will have something to add if this is incomplete. Just hold on to your posts. 8)

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    Your original sentence would make me think you are giving an opinion. And this is different from what you wanted to say.
    ==> I say that Ron will come tomorrow.
    ==> I think that Ron will come tomorrow.
    Not sure what you mean. I don't think there's a difference.

    Say:
    I said that Ron will come tomorrow (here I want to inform the listener that I have told Sam about this)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    Your original sentence would make me think you are giving an opinion. And this is different from what you wanted to say.
    ==> I say that Ron will come tomorrow.
    ==> I think that Ron will come tomorrow.
    Not sure what you mean. I don't think there's a difference.

    Say:
    I said that Ron will come tomorrow (here I want to inform the listener that I have told Sam about this)


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    I think/believe that
    I said that he would probably not die for 80 years.
    I say that Ron will come tomorrow.

    His original meaning was to say something to someone, not just an opinion.

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    It may be an opinion, or may not.
    I said X
    "X" I said
    I think they've the same meaning most of the time.

    FRC

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    smartraja Guest

    Re: Usage of "said" and "told"

    Thanks for your reply.

    My doubt is whether i'll be able to form a sentance like this

    "I said to Sam that Ron will come tomorrow."

    is it ok to have THAT with said ?


    One more thing

    When i have to use these sentences , i mean on which occasion it would be appropriate to use form 1 and form 2.
    Form 1: "I told Sam that Ron will come tomorrow "
    Form 2: "Ron will come tomorrow" , I said to Sam.

    Thanks,
    Smartraja.

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    smartraja Guest
    Your original sentence would make me think you are giving an opinion. And this is different from what you wanted to say.
    ==> I say that Ron will come tomorrow.
    ==> I think that Ron will come tomorrow.

    Not sure what you mean. I don't think there's a difference.

    Say:
    I said that Ron will come tomorrow (here I want to inform the listener that I have told Sam about this)
    Dear Francois,

    If i write like
    => I said to Sam that "Ron will come tomorrow"

    Is it an opinion.i dont think so, i have informed Sam about Ron's arrival tomorrow.

    Pls correct me if i'm wrorng.
    If i write like this :
    => "I say that Ron will come tomorrow. "

    This is my opinion abt Ron's arrival . But if i use Said in place of Say... will it be a opinion or a Fact.

    Thanks
    Smartraja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    It may be an opinion, or may not.
    Agreed. :)

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    Re: Usage of "said" and "told"

    Quote Originally Posted by smartraja

    My doubt is whether i'll be able to form a sentance like this

    "I said to Sam that Ron will come tomorrow."

    is it ok to have THAT with said ?
    I said to Sam that Ron...
    I said to Sam Ron...
    Both are correct, 'that' is optional.


    When i have to use these sentences , i mean on which occasion it would be appropriate to use form 1 and form 2.
    Form 1: "I told Sam that Ron will come tomorrow "
    Form 2: "Ron will come tomorrow" , I said to Sam.
    For me, both can be used.
    But if I write a novel, I prefer form 2 to make my articles more interesting.

    Josh told me he loves me. This may be just a statement.
    "I love you," Josh said to me. This one sounds more beautiful, doesn't it?

    :)

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