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    #1

    correction

    I would like to ask native speakers of English the following thing.

    It is natural that everyone has elected him captain
    (Is this sentence correct? I translated)

    And if you have to use "may" and "elect," is it corret to say the following?
    Everyone may well have elected him captain.
    Please correct it as necessary


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    #2

    Re: correction

    Both are grammatically correct - in what context where you going to use them?
    Perhaps you could write a few lines of conversation so we can be sure you understand when we would say these sentences.


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    #3

    Re: correction

    Thank you veru much, David L.
    Both of the sentences are correct, aren't they?
    It is natural that everyone has elected him captain
    Everyone may well have elected him captain.
    They are from a translation training book from Japanese into English. So there is no context. If you imagine their context, would you give them to me?

    Another related question, I think that, in the case where he has been elected, you use the present tense or the bare infinitive as it is natural that everyone should elect him captain. In this case, it is difficult for me to distingusih whether he has bee elected captain or will be elected correctly but I guess in this case he has been elected. Would you please give me some advice for them?


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    #4

    Re: correction

    It is natural that everyone should elect him.
    as in 'he should be elected' - he hasn't been elected yet (perhaps the vote hasn't been taken yet) but it would be desirable, or the right thing to happen.
    A more colloquial way of saying this is,
    It is only natural that he should be elected.
    "Everyone' is redundant and odd - to be elected, you must have gained a certain predetermined percentage of the votes (the most votes, anyway)
    It is only natural that everyone wanted him to be captain.
    It is only natural that everyone voted for him.

    It is the second sentence where the context is important:
    Say two people had tried out for captain, and I am talking to the person who missed out:
    Everyone may well have elected him captain, but that doesn't mean he's a better cricketer than you.
    He may well have lots more money than me, but that doesn't give him the right to speak to me like that."
    I am a great user of 'may well have' myself. (Colloquial use of 'me' instead of 'than I'.)
    Last edited by David L.; 14-Jan-2008 at 17:02.


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    #5

    Re: correction

    Thanks a billion, David L for teaching me precisely

    #1 It is only natural that everyone wanted him to be captain.
    It is only natural that everyone voted for him.


    Oh you use type 2 subjunctive mood there. It is really interesting and new to me. I will use type 2 from now on.

    #2 About may well, what is the differece between may and may well to you? I think well in may well has a feeling that I understand the situation well. I would like to know the sence.

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