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    sky753 is offline Senior Member
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    What is the phrase equal to?

    Hello Everyone,

    The phrase "in effect" is defined as follows. I am somewhat baffled by the definition!

    I would like to know if "in effect" equals to "as a matter of fact" or "in fact"?

    And can you give me some examples of the phrase?

    in effect used when you are describing what you see as the real facts of a situation:
    In effect, we'll be earning less than we were last year

    Regards

    Sky

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    Re: What is the phrase equal to?

    "in effect" = "effectively" a good substitute for... or the same as...

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    Re: What is the phrase equal to?

    Dear sky753,

    In effect (idiom)
    • for all practical purpose, as in:
    “This testimony in effect contradicted her earlier statement.”
    • in or into operation, as in:
    This law will be in effect in January.”

    Elated phrases include go into effect and take effect , which mean ”become operative”, as in:

    "This laws effect January 1.”

    Similarly put into effect means “make operation”, as in:

    When will the judge’s ruling be put into effect?

    Regards.

    V.
    Last edited by vil; 30-Jan-2008 at 18:41.

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    Re: What is the phrase equal to?

    Quote Originally Posted by vil View Post
    Dear sky753,
    Sorry.
    Regards.

    V.
    First, Many thanks for your replies!

    In my own opinion, in my example, "in effect" means " in fact" or "as a matter of fact"

    Regards

    Sky

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    Re: What is the phrase equal to?

    Can also mean:

    In effect (as a result), we'll be earning less than last year.

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    Re: What is the phrase equal to?

    Dear sky753,

    As a matter of fact/in fact/actually/ in effect all of us tell each other the same thing - one and all maintain that the expression "in fact" has an all-purpose meaning.

    Openly I have explain to you the meaning of my very first definition in my previous post above concerning PAPP, which is an abbreviation of the expression For All Practical Purpose. The meaning of the present definition is a pragmatic approach towards the problem of incompleteness of every scientific theory and usage of asymptotical approximations.

    Usually, when physicist makes an approximation which can't be justified on rigorous grounds - he tends to justify it by saying that the results obtained are good for all practical purposes (FAPP) meaning that they agree with our experience and approximation errors cannot be detected in practical measurements for instance, if the error is smaller that the measurement resolution.

    Do you remember my first example in my previous post above?

    "The testimony in effect contradicted her earlier statement."

    In my humble opinion the meaning of the expression "in effect" on this place is the same as the written from you in your last post "in fact" or "as a matter of fact" or "actually", or "in realty".

    Therefore there is no a spirit of contradiction between us but on the contrary we are unanimous.

    All the best.

    Regards.

    V.

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    Re: What is the phrase equal to?

    Quote Originally Posted by vil View Post
    Dear sky753,

    As a matter of fact/in fact/actually/ in effect all of us tell each other the same thing - one and all maintain that the expression "in fact" has an all-purpose meaning.

    Openly I have explain to you the meaning of my very first definition in my previous post above concerning PAPP, which is an abbreviation of the expression For All Practical Purpose. The meaning of the present definition is a pragmatic approach towards the problem of incompleteness of every scientific theory and usage of asymptotical approximations.

    Usually, when physicist makes an approximation which can't be justified on rigorous grounds - he tends to justify it by saying that the results obtained are good for all practical purposes (FAPP) meaning that they agree with our experience and approximation errors cannot be detected in practical measurements for instance, if the error is smaller that the measurement resolution.

    Do you remember my first example in my previous post above?

    "The testimony in effect contradicted her earlier statement."

    In my humble opinion the meaning of the expression "in effect" on this place is the same as the written from you in your last post "in fact" or "as a matter of fact" or "actually", or "in realty".

    Therefore there is no a spirit of contradiction between us but on the contrary we are unanimous.

    All the best.

    Regards.

    V.
    Many thinks!

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