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    Question Irish Provinces

    Hello!

    I do not know how should I pronounce the name of an Irish province Munster /mʌnster (according to the rules) or mu(:)nster or maybe mY(:)nster/?
    The Irish name Mumhan is quite different but I'm not sure the pronunciation of Munster corresponds to the English rules.

    And what is the case with Leinster? /lenster or leinster/ or both?

    Many thanks!

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    Re: Irish Provinces

    The local (Irish) accent is rhotic, but in RBP there is no /er/ - just /'mʌnstə/. Likewise for /'lenstə/. Of course, the words 'Munster' and 'Leinster' are probably anglicized transliterations of something Gaelic - about which (Gaelic) I know next to nothing; and in the specific matters of 'Munster' and 'Leinster' absolutely nothing.

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    Re: Irish Provinces

    about /-er/ of course, I wrote it only to save some time :). So, the main cunclusion is we should not pronouce /leinstə or munstə/. Thanks!

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    Re: Irish Provinces

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexOm View Post
    about /-er/ of course, I wrote it only to save some time :). So, the main cunclusion is we should not pronouce /leinstə or munstə/. Thanks!
    . Definitely not /ei/, and /ʌ/ rather than any other vowel; I suspect, though, that in the local pronunciation of a Munsterman, it would be closer to [u] [maybe even [ɔ]].

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    Re: Irish Provinces

    Many a time in Ireland,I noticed the phonem [^] was near to [u] and a backward[o:]
    jump [djump or djo:mp]

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    Re: Irish Provinces

    They have a funny way with vowels. The London-based joke - 'What's sex?'/?/'It's what posh people buy their coal in' - has an Irish analogue: 'What's sex?'?/'It's tea-time in Ballymena.'

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    Re: Irish Provinces

    :)

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