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    Are these correct?

    Teachers,

    If you were to tell that there's no more possible ways to try:

     There's no other way but to give up.
     There's nothing anyone can do but give up.
     There's nothing I[we] can do but give up.
     There's nothing you can do but give up.

    Are these correct? Do these make any sense?

    Thank you.

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    Re: Are these correct?

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    They're correct.

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    Re: Are these correct?

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    One more: there is nothing to do but give up.

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    Re: Are these correct?

    The first sentence does not sound right. Giving up is not a way but something you do.

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    Re: Are these correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gundl View Post
    The first sentence does not sound right. Giving up is not a way but something you do.
    Then,

    There's no other way but give up.

    I took out 'to' from the sentence. Is this correct?

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    Re: Are these correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by jibou View Post
    Then,

    There's no other way but give up.

    I took out 'to' from the sentence. Is this correct?

    i am just a student but i would say that you can`t take `to` from the sentences.
    hope a teacher can clarify.
    regards.

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    Re: Are these correct?

    While we understand what you are getting at in each of those sentences, they are not how a native speaker would express it> Firstly, the expression "there's no other way' is used to mean, that there's no other way to get round a problem other than some way that they are reluctant to follow.
    Say, a man has lots of debts that need to be paid. One way would be to go to the bank for a loan...but he has a poor credit rating, no job, and so the bank won't loan him the money. He has no car or other item that he could sell that would give him enough money to pay the bills. His only other option is to ask relatives to lend him the money which he absolutely doesn't want to do. When he talks it over with his friend, his friend might say, "there's no other way - you'll have to ask your uncle."
    The point is, that 'no other way' implies other than this way of dealing with a problem (asking your uncle in the example), and 'giving up' is not really regarded as 'a way' of dealing with a problem : giving up means resigning yourself to the fact that there's 'nothing else you can do', there is no way to deal with the problem.

    "There's no other way but to give up."
    Native speaker would say - There's nothing else we can do but give up


     There's nothing anyone can do but give up.
    - There's nothing anyone can do. You'll just have to give up.

     
     There's nothing else you can do but give up.
    Good - as a native speaker would say it.
    Last edited by David L.; 15-Mar-2008 at 03:59.

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    Re: Are these correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
     There's nothing anyone can do but give up.
    - There's nothing anyone can do. You'll just have to give up.

    Good - as a native speaker would say it.
    yes, David, but I remember I heard that sentence from a native (probably a movie), so one can say it is usual. I don't know, I am not a teacher, but I guess this is about the (big) difference between spoken and written English.

    and whether you google it:
    "nothing you can do but give up" - Google Search

    There's over 2700 entries on the internet!

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    Re: Are these correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by marciobarbalho View Post
    yes, David, but I remember I heard that sentence from a native (probably a movie), so one can say it is usual. I don't know, I am not a teacher, but I guess this is about the (big) difference between spoken and written English.

    and whether you google it:
    "nothing you can do but give up" - Google Search

    There's over 2700 entries on the internet!
    A Google search is not a great indicator. A great deal of what is on the internet is poorly written English.

    I only get 10 references on this search and four of these are the same reference, one is a song, two are this question, and the other two are part of a fuller context.

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    Re: Are these correct?

    So, nobody talks like that? even the ones who are not from UK?

    I am not saying that you who are not from UK have a bad spoken English.

    Thanks in advance.

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