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    Dear teachers,

    Please read the following two sentences:

    1. This is the situation we find ourselves in today.

    2. This is the situation where we find ourselves today.

    Could you please explain if the second sentence correct?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
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    Jiang


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    Re: where

    We speak about being 'in' a situation.
    The whole sentence would be:
    This is the situation in which we find ourselves today.

    compare

    This is a situation where (=about which) we need to be very careful.
    He got himself into a situation where he had no other choice than to...
    Last edited by David L.; 17-Mar-2008 at 09:28.

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    Re: where

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    Dear David,

    Thank you very much for your explanation. I understand 'This is the situation in which we find ourselves today'.
    I don't understand why 'where' in 'This is the situation where' means 'about which'. Please read the next two sentences and see if my explanation is correct:

    This is the room where I was born.
    This is the room in which I was born.

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.
    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    We speak about being 'in' a situation.
    The whole sentence would be:
    This is the situation in which we find ourselves today.

    compare

    This is a situation where (=about which) we need to be very careful.
    He got himself into a situation where he had no other choice than to...


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    Re: where

    This is the room where I was born.
    This is the room in which I was born.


    Both are correct. In the first, 'room' is being used in the sense of 'place', the place where I was born that happens to be a room rather than the 'back seat of a cab' (which is a favourite place depicted in the movies).
    The second sentence is being highly specific about this birth occurring within these four walls of this room - in(side) this room. It is so precise, it would be most likely said in humour, as if the room is being regarded as an historical place, to be visited with reverence and solemnity.
    "This is the dormitory where the other staff would grab a few hours sleep, and this is the room in which Churchill and the generals would conduct war strategy meetings." (because the room takes on special importance because Churchill and the war have importance.)
    "This is the very room in which Rizzio was stabbed to death in front of Queen Mary."
    Last edited by David L.; 17-Mar-2008 at 18:37.

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    Re: where

    Dear David,

    Thank you very much for your explanation. I think I can say 'situation' isn't a place so I can't use ''where".

    And in the sentence "I've reached the stage where I just don't care any more." I can use 'in which' either. Is that right?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.
    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    This is the room where I was born.
    This is the room in which I was born.

    Both are correct. In the first, 'room' is being used in the sense of 'place', the place where I was born that happens to be a room rather than the 'back seat of a cab' (which is a favourite place depicted in the movies).
    The second sentence is being highly specific about this birth occurring within these four walls of this room - in(side) this room. It is so precise, it would be most likely said in humour, as if the room is being regarded as an historical place, to be visited with reverence and solemnity.
    "This is the dormitory where the other staff would grab a few hours sleep, and this is the room in which Churchill and the generals would conduct war strategy meetings." (because the room takes on special importance because Churchill and the war have importance.)
    "This is the very room in which Rizzio was stabbed to death in front of Queen Mary."

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