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    conditional doubts

    Hi there,

    I've studied four conditionals( 0,1,2,3) and know their structures but then I read a sentence in a test:" We have to check out soon if we're going to catch our plane". I'm a bit confused because I didn't recognise its structure, I thought it was a conditional, was it? if not, could you please tell me what it is? and where should I use this structure?
    Thank you so much,

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    Re: conditional doubts

    Quote Originally Posted by carla guaraldi View Post
    Hi there,

    I've studied four conditionals( 0,1,2,3) and know their structures but then I read a sentence in a test:" We have to check out soon if we're going to catch our plane". I'm a bit confused because I didn't recognise its structure, I thought it was a conditional, was it? if not, could you please tell me what it is? and where should I use this structure?
    Thank you so much,
    Hello,

    This sentece is a "Direct Object Clause".
    Replace "We have to check out soon if we are going to catch our plane" with one word, let's say "the timetable" and you will get " We have to check out soon the timetable".
    The timetable is the Direct Object of the verb" To check out".
    What do we have to check out? The timetable or, in the case of your sentence, If we are going to catch our plane.
    You cannot use "on what condition do we have to check out soon?" it doesn't make sense.

    So, your sentence is not a Conditional Sentence.

    I have another example for you:
    We asked him whether / if he had understood the instructions.
    What did we ask him? Whether / if he had understood the instructions.

    hope that helps!

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    Re: conditional doubts

    I think check out hasn't got the meaning you mention.

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    Re: conditional doubts

    Quote Originally Posted by carla guaraldi View Post
    I think check out hasn't got the meaning you mentioned.
    in that case I mentioned.

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    Re: conditional doubts

    maybe this will help
    be sure to scroll down to where it says first conditional

    it looks like a case of mixed conditionals to me.
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    Re: conditional doubts

    We have to check out soon if we're going to catch our plane".

    As I see it, the grammar is wrong. It should be:
    "We'll have to check out soon if we're going to catch our plane"
    without the contractions:
    We will have to check out soon if we are going to catch our plane"

    He: We need to check out early.
    She: But check-out isn't until 11 am
    He : We'll have to check out earlier than that if we are going to be in time to catch our plane.
    or We will have to check out soon if we are going to catch our plane.
    In effect, the condition is: If you want to be sure you will catch your plane, you will need to check out sooner than usual. If you have to, (and are going to_ check out at the usual check out time, then no condition comes into it - We have to check out soon. Full stop. You have to check out because of hotel policy, nothing to do with flight schedules.
    BUT : IF (conditional tense introduced) you want to do this, then you will have to do that.
    Last edited by David L.; 18-Mar-2008 at 02:57.


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    Re: conditional doubts

    Quote Originally Posted by carla guaraldi View Post
    Hi there,

    I've studied four conditionals( 0,1,2,3) and know their structures but then I read a sentence in a test:" We have to check out soon if we're going to catch our plane". I'm a bit confused because I didn't recognise its structure, I thought it was a conditional, was it? if not, could you please tell me what it is? and where should I use this structure?
    Thank you so much,
    I can't understand the problem you're having, Carla. It certainly is a conditional.

    "We have to check out soon if we're going to catch our plane"

    [= in meaning]

    If we don't leave the hotel soon, then the consequence/result will be that we will miss our plane.

    OR

    Unless we meet the condition of leaving this hotel room soon, we will miss our plane.


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    Re: conditional doubts

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    We have to check out soon if we're going to catch our plane".

    As I see it, the grammar is wrong. It should be:
    "We'll have to check out soon if we're going to catch our plane"
    without the contractions:
    We will have to check out soon if we are going to catch our plane"
    David, I don't see how 'have to' requires 'will' to make it grammatical.

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    Riverkid, I studied the conditionals and their structures, I've learned that the zero takes present+present, the first takes (if) present+will, the third past+would and the fourth past perfect+would present perfect and then nobody else taught me that I could use are going to+(verb) instead of will as it was mentioned by that person from UK. So can I do that?

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    Re: conditional doubts

    Quote Originally Posted by carla guaraldi View Post
    Riverkid, I studied the conditionals and their structures, I've learned that the zero takes present+present, the first takes (if) present+will, the third past+would and the fourth past perfect+would present perfect and then nobody else taught me that I could use are going to+(verb) instead of will as it was mentioned by David from UK. So can I do that?
    I didn't know that. Thanks for the help.

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