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    happen

    Is it ever possible to use the preposition with after the verb to happen? If yes, would it have the same meaning as to happen to?

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    Re: happen

    I'm not a teacher, but would have no problem with:

    "That's just the typical problem that happens with Jim in the driving seat".

    i.e. meaning:

    "That's just the typical problem that happens when Jim is driving [the car or (figuratively) the project]".

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    Re: happen

    That always happens with men at an Australian barbeque: they all stand around talking sport with each other, and let the women get on with themselves.

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    Re: happen

    I see! It means that it happens to people when Jim is driving. Is that so?

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    Re: happen

    Sort of, but not necessarILy people. Maybe the car arrived late, or got lost; 'happens with ... + <someone doing something>' refers to a recurrent or predictable situation. 'He made the cement too dry, and his wall only lasted a week' 'That always happens with trainee brick-layers.'

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    Last edited by BobK; 20-Mar-2008 at 11:34. Reason: Fix typo - apologies for any confusion

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    Re: happen

    There were several accidents on the roads last weekend. It always happens with drunk drivers (meaning, when there are drunk drivers involved). Did I finally get it right?

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    Re: happen

    Yes, but I would tweak it slightly for other reasons:

    It regularly happens with drunk drivers on the road (meaning, when there are drunk drivers on the road).

    "Always" tends to demand substantiation in the text, "regularly" doesn't.

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    Re: happen

    Quote Originally Posted by Neillythere View Post
    Yes, but I would tweak it slightly for other reasons:

    It regularly happens with drunk drivers on the road (meaning, when there are drunk drivers on the road).

    "Always" tends to demand substantiation in the text, "regularly" doesn't.
    I hadn't noticed that.

    Incidentally, some people avoid using 'regularly' in the sense 'commonly/frequently/often', because they look for a regula (Latin, ="rule") when they see that word. I don't expect everyone to apply this principle - which in some circles used to be a prescription - but it may be of interest.

    (OK - I'll stop digging )

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    Re: happen

    Hi BobK

    Almost 50 years ago, when I got my O-level in Latin, "Rex" meant "King/Ruler".

    I looked up "regula" in Wikipedia and it came back with:
    Regula is a planetary object in the fictional Star Trek universe.

    Cheers, mate

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