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    a Present Perfet question

    Hi teachers!

    Which is the sentence that has the same meaning as the given sentence?

    "My father and I never argue now. We get along better than before."

    a. I have never argued with my father.
    b. My father and I have had an argument.
    c. My father and I haven't had an argument recently.

    I'm confused by between a and c

    Regards.
    Last edited by Grinkl; 23-Mar-2008 at 20:47.

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    Re: a Present Perfet question

    Quote Originally Posted by Grinkl View Post
    Hi teachers!

    Which is the sentence that has the same meaning as the given sentence?

    "My father and I never argue now. We get along better than before"

    a. I have never argued with my father.
    b. My father and I have had an argument.
    c. My father and I haven't had an argument recently.

    Regards.
    Which one do you think is correct? Read them all carefully and you should be able to choose the correct answer. :)

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    Re: a Present Perfet question

    I'm not a teacher, but surely the answer has to be C).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    Which one do you think is correct? Read them all carefully and you should be able to choose the correct answer. :)
    To be honest, I'm really confused by a and c.
    please give me your explanation.

    Thank you.

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    Re: a Present Perfet question

    "My father and I never argue now [this presumes that you used to argue previously]. We get along better than before"

    a. I have never argued with my father.

    This is obviously not true, as the original sentence presumes prior arguments.

    b. My father and I have had an argument.

    This is not currently true, as we "never argue" now.

    c. My father and I haven't had an argument recently.

    We used to argue, but we never argue now, so we haven't had an argument recently. This is obviously true!

    Hope this clarifies the situation.

    Regards


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    Re: a Present Perfet question

    Quote Originally Posted by Neillythere View Post
    "My father and I never argue now [this presumes that you used to argue previously]. We get along better than before"

    a. I have never argued with my father.

    This is obviously not true, as the original sentence presumes prior arguments.

    b. My father and I have had an argument.

    This is not currently true, as we "never argue" now.

    c. My father and I haven't had an argument recently.

    We used to argue, but we never argue now, so we haven't had an argument recently. This is obviously true!

    Hope this clarifies the situation.

    Regards
    Thank you so much for your detailed explanation !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinkl View Post
    To be honest, I'm really confused by a and c.
    please give me your explanation.

    Thank you.
    In your initial sentence it reads that now they get along better than before. So logically thinking, it means that they must have had some arguments in the past. And [sentence a] says the opposite, with the present perfect tense and never used, and this, to me, excludes each other.
    My reason for [sentence b] to be a wrong choice is based on a similar explanation. My father and I have had an argument conveys a sense of recency, which is not true since in your initial sentence it says the opposite again (now = nowadays, including recent time).
    Finally, you're left with option #3, which is the right choice.


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    Re: a Present Perfet question

    Quote Originally Posted by Grinkl View Post
    Hi teachers!

    Which is the sentence that has the same meaning as the given sentence?

    "My father and I never argue now. We get along better than before."

    a. I have never argued with my father.
    b. My father and I have had an argument.
    c. My father and I haven't had an argument recently.

    I'm confused by between a and c

    Regards.
    Perhaps you're confused by the red 'never' and the blue 'never, Grinkl. The red never is definition number 1, below, and the blue never is defined by number 2.

    M-W:

    Main Entry:
    never
    Function:
    adverb
    Etymology:
    Middle English, from Old English n̄fre, from ne not + ̄fre ever more at no
    Date:
    before 12th century

    1 : not ever : at no time <I never met her>

    2 : not in any degree : not under any condition <never the wiser for his experience>

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    Re: a Present Perfet question

    Quote Originally Posted by Grinkl View Post
    Hi teachers!

    Which is the sentence that has the same meaning as the given sentence?

    "My father and I never argue now. This sentence tells us that they definitely (have) argued in the past. If they had never argued before, the sentence would be 'My father and I have never argued.' So the "now" in the first sentence tells us that they (have) argued before. Therefore a. can not be correct.
    We get along better than before."


    a. I have never argued with my father.
    b. My father and I have had an argument. This is true, but the argument happened in the past; so c. is the most complete and best answer, and therefore the correct one.
    c. My father and I haven't had an argument recently.

    I'm confused by between a and c

    Regards.
    2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    In your initial sentence it reads that now they get along better than before. So logically thinking, it means that they must have had some arguments in the past. And [sentence a] says the opposite, with the present perfect tense and never used, and this, to me, excludes each other.
    My reason for [sentence b] to be a wrong choice is based on a similar explanation. My father and I have had an argument conveys a sense of recency, which is not true since in your initial sentence it says the opposite again (now = nowadays, including recent time).
    Finally, you're left with option #3, which is the right choice.
    Thank you very much.

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