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    Use of pp

    is the use of pp before the person actually signing the letter or infront of the 'Normal person' signing

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    Re: Use of pp

    I'm not a teacher, but I sign a lot of letters "PP", and it is always in front of the name of the person or body corporate on whose behalf I'm signing, never in front of my own name. So, "S.J. Martin pp 'my boss'"

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    Re: Use of pp

    The practice in the places where I have worked differs to what stuartnz suggested, so I thought I'd better check up on this:
    A common usage of per procurationem occurs in business letters, which are often signed on behalf of another person. For example, given a secretary authorized to sign a letter on behalf of the president of a company, the signature takes the form:
    p.p. Secretary's Signature
    President's Name
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    President's Name
    p.p. Secretary's Signature
    Commonly in practice, an alternative form is used:
    Secretary's Signature
    p.p. President's Name
    The correct usage is the subject of some debate; largely depending on whether one interprets per procurationem as "through the agency of" or "on behalf of".

    I know my secretary always put the p.p. before her name! The only answer to this one: see what the secretaries in your organization are doing!

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    Re: Use of pp

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    The practice in the places where I have worked differs to what stuartnz suggested, so I thought I'd better check up on this:
    A common usage of per procurationem occurs in business letters, which are often signed on behalf of another person. For example, given a secretary authorized to sign a letter on behalf of the president of a company, the signature takes the form:
    p.p. Secretary's Signature
    President's Name
    or
    President's Name
    p.p. Secretary's Signature
    Commonly in practice, an alternative form is used:
    Secretary's Signature
    p.p. President's Name
    The correct usage is the subject of some debate; largely depending on whether one interprets per procurationem as "through the agency of" or "on behalf of".

    I know my secretary always put the p.p. before her name!
    Thanks for that, David. What makes this interesting is that the forms I sign are pre-printed with a line for a signature then "pp (company name)". That's why I figured it was standard practice. I guess the companies I work for have gone with the "on behalf of" definition.
    Last edited by stuartnz; 27-Mar-2008 at 11:54. Reason: insert missing word

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