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    the word "jealous"

    Unless I was mistaken, I've seen conflicting use of this word as to who the object of the jealousy was aimed at. If I'm allowed to set up the scene here, maybe if help me understand it better.

    Let's say there 2 girls who compete for the affection of this one guy. But this guy prefers girl A over girl B. Girl B is of volcanic temperament goes irate and wishes that girl A could just disappear. Now do we say girl B is jealous of the guy or the girl?

    Honestly, unless I'm just a very confused person I have seen or heard (on TV shows mostly) that in the context given above, girl B is jealous of thy guy, not the girl. That's not how we'd use the word in Chinese, most definitely.

    Many thanks in advance
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    Re: the word "jealous"

    Quote Originally Posted by NearThere View Post
    Unless I was mistaken, I've seen conflicting use of this word as to who the object of the jealousy was aimed at. If I'm allowed to set up the scene here, maybe if help me understand it better.

    Let's say there 2 girls who compete for the affection of this one guy. But this guy prefers girl A over girl B. Girl B is of volcanic temperament goes irate and wishes that girl A could just disappear. Now do we say girl B is jealous of the guy or the girl?

    Honestly, unless I'm just a very confused person I have seen or heard (on TV shows mostly) that in the context given above, girl B is jealous of thy guy, not the girl. That's not how we'd use the word in Chinese, most definitely.

    Many thanks in advance
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    see this:
    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...7-jealous.html


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    Re: the word "jealous"

    Jealousy is felt for the rival. Girl A is the girlfriend so girl A could be jealous of girl B (but doesn't seem to be.)
    Girl B is showing envy- envy of A's relationship with the boyfriend.

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    Re: the word "jealous"

    Thanks Banderas and David, that's what I thought, but please bear with me cause this TV show confused me.

    In a consequential scence where the guy confronted girl B for acting crazy and she, using text-book acting technic, stuttered the word "I" a couple of times before choked up the truth: "I, I am jealous of you!", at which my shock and confusion rivaled that of the male actor: "jealous of me?"

    So is it just bad writing?

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    Re: the word "jealous"

    Quote Originally Posted by NearThere View Post
    Thanks Banderas and David, that's what I thought, but please bear with me cause this TV show confused me.

    In a consequential scence where the guy confronted girl B for acting crazy and she, using text-book acting technic, stuttered the word "I" a couple of times before choked up the truth: "I, I am jealous of you!", at which my shock and confusion rivaled that of the male actor: "jealous of me?"

    So is it just bad writing?

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    jelaous=feeling resentment against someone because of that person's rivalry, success, or advantages.
    So how can she feel resentment against his boyfriend?
    because of his success??? A boyfriend and his girlfriend are not rivals.
    No wonder you were confused hearing that. I would be too.
    It looks like a loan translation to me.

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    Re: the word "jealous"

    Thanks, Banderas.

    Real quick, "loan translation", why "loan"? Does it mean lousy translation? Thanks.

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    Re: the word "jealous"

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    Thanks, Banderas.

    Real quick, "loan translation", why "loan"? Does it mean lousy translation? Thanks.

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    It is a literal translations of components from one language into another that might result in creating nonsense.
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    Re: the word "jealous"

    Attention: I'm not a teacher.

    Hi NearThere,

    In my humble opinion we shouldn’t interpret the term ”jealous” so primitive and narrowminded. We should know its multiferous meaning. This puts you in a more advantageous position. There are the following synonyms of the word “jealous”: covetous, desirous, envious, green, green-eyed, grudging, possessive, protective, resentful, rival, suspicious, wary.

    What do you think of the following sentence?

    “And it shall come to pass that they know that I am the Lord their God, and am a jealous God, visiting the iniquies of my people.”

    or of the following variant:

    “You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, “

    Regards.

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    Re: the word "jealous"

    Hi NT1

    As a Brit, but not a teacher, I would have said:

    B is jealous of A (i.e. of A's ability to attract the affection of the boy), but not of the boy.

    I'm not aware of any case where it might be considered to relate to the boy.

    If you have an example of where, you believe that, it could mean otherwise, could you let us know, together with the context.

    Best regards

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    Re: the word "jealous"

    Hi Vil

    In both examples in your text, the "jealous God", like Girl A, is jealous of any other "god", like Girl B, attracting the affections of "the God's mortals", like Girl A's boyfriend.

    Both contexts are the same.

    I'm therefore not sure of the relevence of your 1st paragraph to the remainder of your text.

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