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    please, what's the right way to say?
    "make the changes that I had to do" or "make the changes that I had to make"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    please, what's the right way to say?
    "make the changes that I had to do" or "make the changes that I had to make"?
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    I'd say that context is needed to come to a firm conclusion, JC. I can even see a,

    "do the changes that I had to do".

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    Re: make and do - again

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
    I'd say that context is needed to come to a firm conclusion, JC. I can even see a,

    "do the changes that I had to do".
    thanks.
    the context could be someone reasoning about their life, as follows:
    "I think it's time to change. Changes are necessary when things are not the way they should be. I hope to be brave enough to make the changes that I have to do/make in my life.".
    thanks.
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    Re: make and do - again

    hi there,
    I wonder if someone else would like to post their opinion.
    thanks.

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    Re: make and do - again

    There's no difference in this "had" versus "have" as in any other circumstance.

    Last year, I was diagnosed with diabetes. So I made the changes that I had to make in my diet, and today, I'm happy to say that I do not require insulin.

    It will not be hard to make those changes that I have to make - I should have this ready for you in another hour.
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    Re: make and do - again

    Thanks.
    I wonder if I can simply omit the last "make". The sentence would became: "I made the changes that I had to." or "I need to make the changes that I have to.".
    Thanks again.

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    Re: make and do - again

    In the first one, I'd say the sentence is even improved by this omission.

    The second one (I have to make the changes that I have to make) is just a very redundant seentence, and removing the second "make" only highlights that more. I have to make some changes. There are some changes I must make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    thanks.
    the context could be someone reasoning about their life, as follows:
    "I think it's time to change. Changes are necessary when things are not the way they should be. I hope to be brave enough to make the changes that I have to do/make in my life.".
    thanks.
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    hi there,
    I wonder if someone else would like to post their opinion.
    thanks.


    I'd be inclined to re-write it to avoid the issue.

    "I think it's time to make changes. Changes are necessary when things are not going the way they should. I hope to be brave enough to make the necessary adjustments which are needed in my life."

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