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    Karl Marx said history always repeats itself, the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.



    Gordon seems to have managed both.



    Still, I don't believe the Labour Party will dump Gordon, despite the fevered speculation inside the Westminster village. He'll have to be dragged out by what remains of his fingernails.

    Might as well let him lose the next election before choosing another leader...

    And coming up later on the Old Grey Whistle Test on BBC2, punk sensation Jilted John will be performing the number that has got them pogoing in clubs all over Britain - Gordon Is A Moron.
    Hi,

    I am reading an article by a columnist from Daily Mail (U.K.). The paragraph above is the excerpt. Please give me a hand. Thanks!

    Q1: I had thought Communism was totally unacceptable for Westerners including Brits. But I wonder why this columnist used Karl Marx to illustrate his argument?

    Q2: Is "the Westminster village" a disapproving phrase for " House of Commons" ?

    Q3: What is the meaning of "
    what remains of his fingernails"?

    Q4: I totally can not understand the last paragraph which I highlight in red.

    1) I learned "
    Old Grey Whistle Test" is a music programme for BBC2. But what is the purpose of the author's?

    2) What is the meaning of "
    punk sensation Jilted John"? Who is John? What is ' punk sensation" ?

    3) What is the meaning of "
    performing the number"?

    4) What is " got them pogoing"? Who are them? What is " pogoing"?



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    Q1: I had thought Communism was totally unacceptable for Westerners including Brits. But I wonder why this columnist used Karl Marx to illustrate his argument?

    Communism as a political and economic model is rejected by Westerners - and if you look at the conditions in and under which the Germans in East Germany were living (prior to the Berlin Wall coming down), compared to the Germans in West Germany, you will have some idea why.

    Marx and communism is studied in Universities in the West, along with all other important political and economic theories. Because we reject Communism as a model, it does not mean that everything that Marx said is therefore 'wrong', 'unacceptable', 'blacklisted'. In fact, he made an astute and succinct observation, relevant to what is occurring in our political situation here in the UK at the moment, and the reporter uses it to make a point. I remember when The Thoughts of Chairman Mao was published. Lots of people in the West bought it, and would quote from it if a suitable situation arose!
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    Marx and communism is studied in Universities in the West, along with all other important political or economic theories. Because we reject Communism as a model, it does not mean that everything that Marx said is therefore 'wrong', 'unacceptable' 'blacklisted'. In fact, he made an astute and succinct observation, relevant to what is occurring in our political situation here in the UK at the moment, and the reporter uses it to make a point. I remember when The Thoughts of Chairman Mao was published. Lots of people in the West bought it, and would quote from it if a suitable situation arose!

    Thank you, David. I entirely agree with you.

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    David L. & Snowcase,

    Thank you very much for your opinions. You are helpful. I had thought the mainstream Westerners abhor communism and the people who are for communism, such as Karl Marx, Chairman Mao. So when I read the columnist quoted Karl Marx' s remarks, I was quite surprised.

    By the way, I hope you or anyone else can answer the other questions of mine. Thanks again!
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    Can you give us a link to the article so that we can read it in full?

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    Snowcake:

    Sure. Below is the URL link.

    Life On Mars? No, it's Brown's Britain | the Daily Mail


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    Hi,

    thedaffodils - Q4/3 and 4 - a number means also a song or a dance. Pogo is a form of dancing to rock/punk music. "performing the number that has got them pogoing in clubs all over Britain" means for me "performing a song which caused them jump up and down in clubs all over Britain". I do not know who are "them".

    I am not a teacher!

    Best regards
    Leszek

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    Hi Leszek, thank you very much. I got it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post


    Q2: Is "the Westminster village" a disapproving phrase for " House of Commons" ? It refers to the whole shebang - the Houses of Parliament and all the staff that support them

    Q3: What is the meaning of "
    what remains of his fingernails"? Gordon Brown bites his nails.

    Q4: I totally can not understand the last paragraph which I highlight in red.

    1) I learned "
    Old Grey Whistle Test" is a music programme for BBC2. But what is the purpose of the author's? It no longer exists. The author is making a joke.

    2) What is the meaning of "
    punk sensation Jilted John"? Who is John? What is ' punk sensation" ?
    See here: Graham Fellows - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In case you can't access it, "Jilted John" was the name of a performer, Graham Fellows, who had a hit single record with this name. It was in the punk style - aggressive and minimalist.


    4) Who are them? The people who go to the clubs.

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    Anglika, thank you very much. Not totally understood. But I have a little idea.
    Now, wikipedia is re-accessible in mainland of China. I hope it keeps open.

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