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    Subjunctive From England to USA

    Here're the two kinds of subjonctive I use:

    Well, (1) USA, (2) Great Britain

    (1) USA
    I recommended that he write to them.
    He suggested that we stop and have a look at the castle.
    Do it in order that you can succeed.

    (2) Great Britain
    I recommended that he should write to them.
    He suggested that we should stop and (should) have a look at the castle.
    Do it in order that you should can succeed.

    I usually write and speak with both. Nevertheless, I prefer use the second one (2) for an elevated language and rather the first one (1) for a basic one.
    I've read that the first version (1) is used to the USA but in Great Britain, they usually use the second one (2).

    So, which is the most used? Which one should we generally use? Or should I continue to use it as I have still done?

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    Re: Subjunctive From England to USA

    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphia View Post
    Here're the two kinds of subjonctive I use:

    Well, (1) USA, (2) Great Britain

    (1) USA I would only use these.
    I recommended that he write to them.
    He suggested that we stop and have a look at the castle.
    Do it in order that you can succeed.

    (2) Great Britain
    I recommended that he should write to them. Using recommended or suggested with should is redundant.
    He suggested that we should stop and (should) have a look at the castle.
    Do it in order that you should can succeed. sounds very bad to me

    I usually write and speak with both. Nevertheless, I prefer use the second one (2) for an elevated language and rather the first one (1) for a basic one.


    I've read that the first version (1) is used to the USA but in Great Britain, they usually use the second one (2).

    So, which is the most used? Which one should we generally use? Or should I continue to use it as I have still done?
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    Re: Subjunctive From England to USA

    Okay. Thanks 2006. Hey have you updated your informations?

    I feel it's really difficult to say, nonetheless I believe you got to be right there.

    Therefore, we can use either but the first one (USA) seems actually be more common.

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    Smile Re: Subjunctive From England to USA

    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphia View Post
    ...
    Do it in order that you should can succeed.
    ...
    To me, not only does it sound bad, but also looks bad, and it actually is incorrect.
    If you wanted to stay with the sentence as it is now, you would have to rewrite it as:

    Do it in order that you should be able to succeed.

    Even better:
    Do it in order (for you) to be able to succeed.
    Or:
    Do it in order (for you) to succeed.
    Or:
    Do it (for you) to succeed.


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    Re: Subjunctive From England to USA

    I agree with Engee about rewriting that sentence, but I would add that we don't use the present subjunctive much in BrE.

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