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    the meaning of 'this said'

    Hi, everyone.

    A teacher told me that "this said" is used to refer back to something said, but to follow it with a potentially opposing point of view.
    But I am still uncertain about the exact meaning and the usage of this phrase. Can you show me some more detailed explanation and examples? In addition, is this phrase fomal or informal? Is it a parenthetical element which must be separated by commas?

    Thanks in advance.

    Enydia

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    Re: the meaning of 'this said'

    Quote Originally Posted by enydia View Post
    Hi, everyone.

    A teacher told me that "this said" is used to refer back to something said, but to follow it with a potentially opposing point of view.
    To be honest, I am not sure about the underlined part.
    This said is used to suggest that something you said is accepted you want to add something else or go on to a new subject.
    Is it a parenthetical element which must be separated by commas? Yes, a comma is needed.

    Thanks in advance.

    Enydia
    The information is confidential. This said(=taking into consideration what's been said), the information must be keept in a locked room.

    This said,.........
    That said,...............
    This being said,.......
    Having said that,....
    Last edited by banderas; 04-May-2008 at 05:00. Reason: afterthought

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    Re: the meaning of 'this said'

    Thank you, banderas.

    Quote Originally Posted by banderas View Post
    The information is confidential. This said(=taking into consideration what's been said), the information must be keept in a locked room.

    This said,.........
    That said,...............
    This being said,.......
    Having said that,....
    These four phrases have the same meaning? Are they formal or informal?

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    Re: the meaning of 'this said'

    Quote Originally Posted by banderas View Post
    This said,.........
    That said,...............
    This being said,.......
    Having said that,....
    All of them have the same meaning to me and are used both formally and informally (quite neutral).


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    Re: the meaning of 'this said'

    Hello.

    Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary
    having said that or that said
    : despite what I just said
    ▪ Their work has been fairly good. Having said that, I still think there's a lot of room for improvement.
    ▪ Much of the book was very dull. That said, I have to admit that the ending was extremely clever.

    having said that (informal) used to introduce an opinion that makes what you have just said seem less strong: I sometimes get worried in this job. Having said that, I enjoy doing it, itís a challenge.


    say - Definition from Longman English Dictionary Online
    having said that
    used to say that something is true in spite of what you have just said:
    The diet can make you slim without exercise. Having said that, however, exercise is important too.

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