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    Two sentences (past and adverbs)

    Good evening.

    Just a minute ago I took a shower and was confused about the following sentences.

    Would I rather say:
    The teacher was educated to teach us well.

    or

    The teacher has been educated to teach us well.

    I would choose the first sentence because the action happened in the past.
    But on the other hand it still effects the present.
    If the wasn't educated he wouldn't teach us well.

    And another question relating to adverbs.

    Teacher: I didn't ask you wether copper is loaded positively or negatively.
    Teacher: I didn't ask you wether cooper is positively or negatively loaded.

    I would choose the first one. With positively and negatively I want to express how copper is charged (chemistry).

    I would be very pleased if you could help me. (can I say this? or should I say: I you helped me I would be very grateful)

    Greetings Maluues :)

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    #2

    Re: Two sentences (past and adverbs)

    Hi Maluues,

    tracing back the German sentence you probably had in mind, I'd say the sentence should be rewritten, as in:

    He is educated in teaching us well.

    OR

    He has (professional) qualifications in teaching us well.

    So you may think of another example to discuss the past/perfect problem.

    Regarding your question about adverbs:

    Either can be used.

    (mind the spelling of 'whether'; wether is an animal )

    I would be very pleased if you could help me.

    can I say this?

    Yes, you can.

    Last edited by Snowcake; 08-May-2008 at 23:31.


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    Re: Two sentences (past and adverbs)

    The teacher has been trained to teach us well.

    (He was educated before he then undertook teacher training, and probably will continue to learn (further his education, perhaps by private reading.)

    You are right. He was trained to become a teacher (a completed action in the past) but we presume that he is now engaged in teaching, which links the past completed action with the present, right up to now, so we would use present perfect tense.
    The choice of tense has little to do with 'teach us well'. For examples:

    The teacher was trained to teach us well, but he has become an alcoholic and is so hung-over in class, he just tells us to read our text books.


    The teacher has been trained to teach us well but he has had so much time off work that we are way behind in our curriculum.

    As I recall my chemistry and electrolysis, and anodes and cathodes :
    I didn't ask you whether copper is positively or negatively loaded.


    ...or
    'I would appreciate any help you can give."
    Last edited by David L.; 09-May-2008 at 16:46.


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    Re: Two sentences (past and adverbs)

    Hey you two.
    Thanks for your help :).
    I see the difference and my conclusion , which I made during taking a shower , was right.

    Please excuse my little mistake. I was so angry yesterday that I forgot one "h".

    Greetings Maluues

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