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    That there is that to inhabit

    "To inhabit a language is already ,by that very token, to inhabit a good deal more than it, and that there is that which transcends language is exactly what the interior of our language informs of."
    1.Please explain the meaning and function of the underlined partin the sentence above.
    2.Imagine that you want to explain the whole sentence to a teenager .How do you do it?

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    Re: That there is that to inhabit

    Quote Originally Posted by nimsooze View Post
    "To inhabit a language is already ,by that very token, to inhabit a good deal more than it, and that there is that which transcends language is exactly what the interior of our language informs of."
    1.Please explain the meaning and function of the underlined partin the sentence above.
    2.Imagine that you want to explain the whole sentence to a teenager .How do you do it?
    The naming of parts isn't my strong point, but I'll have a crack at 1.

    In 'that there is that which transcends....' the first "that" is a subordinating conjunction; it introduces the clause that tells us 'what the interior of our language informs ["us"? - is there a typo here?] of'; the second "that" is a demonstrative pronoun; it stands for 'something indefinable'.

    As for 2, this sort of thing either says something very important but very hard to grasp, or something approaching the entirely vacuous and self-evident. I'd guess that what is in the writer's mind is something like this:

    Becoming really at home with a language involves much more than just knowing the words and the grammar. The details of how language works tell us that there is much more to it than just 'the details of how it works'.

    But I'm open to correction.

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    Last edited by BobK; 27-May-2008 at 11:02. Reason: Fix typo


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    Re: That there is that to inhabit

    thanks Bob
    yes there is an omission (us) after "inform" .Could it just be "that which" instead of "that there is that"? Is that "...there is " omittable?
    I think your meaning is not so exact.


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    Re: That there is that to inhabit

    Do you agree that "language" is the house of existance?

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    Re: That there is that to inhabit

    nimsooze, I saw your plea on one of your other threads. I'm here to help as well.

    To inhabit a language (i.e., to be inside of it) is already, by that very token (i.e., by that very idea), to inhabit a good deal more than it (i.e., to be part of a great deal more than language), and [the fact] that there is that (i.e., something) which transcends language (i.e., goes beyond language) is exactly what the interior of our language informs of us.

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    Re: That there is that to inhabit

    Quote Originally Posted by nimsooze View Post
    Do you agree that "language" is the house of existence?
    Are you asking if that is the author's intended meaning?

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    Re: That there is that to inhabit

    Yes. "To inhabit in a language" reminds me of Heidegger famous saying that "language is house of existence".
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    Re: That there is that to inhabit

    Quote Originally Posted by nimsooze View Post
    Yes. "To inhabit in a language" reminds me of Heidegger famous saying that "language is house of existence".
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    Back to your other question. What about the explanation given in post #5?

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    Re: That there is that to inhabit

    For the record, I share Wittgenstein's view that "The limits of my language means the limits of my world." But I also share his view that the only sensible thing is to be silent about something we can't speak about. [That's not a very elegant translation, but I hate that portentous 'whereof' version that everyone always quotes. ]

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