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    normative American values =?

    The second stage of elite-bashing was conceived by the cultural and political right. Conservative intellectuals who rose to prominence during the Reagan administration managed the neat trick of reversing the ’60s usage of “elite” by applying it as a slur to the left alone. “Elite,” often rendered in the plural, became synonymous with “limousine liberals” who opposed supposedly normative American values. That the right-wing intellectual establishment also constituted a powerful elite was somehow obscured.
    Hi! I am reading an article about " elite" in New York Times. Could you please tell me what " normative American values" refers to? Thank you!


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    #2

    Re: normative American values =?

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi! I am reading an article about " elite" in New York Times. Could you please tell me what " normative American values" refers to? Thank you!


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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/op...in&oref=slogin

    2. I have learned what " limousine liberals" is via Wikipedia

    Limousine liberal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Hi, thedaffodils.
    I'm impressed with your attitude toward learning.
    I just wanted to say this.
    Please forgive me for not answering your question.(I'm not a native speaker of English.)

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    Re: normative American values =?

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hi, thedaffodils.
    I'm impressed with your attitude toward learning.
    I just wanted to say this.
    Please forgive me for not answering your question.(I'm not a native speaker of English.)
    Thank you for your kind words! Ah ri ga do, go za yi ma su

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    Re: normative American values =?

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi! I am reading an article about " elite" in New York Times. Could you please tell me what " normative American values" refers to? Thank you!

    It doesn't refer to anything, but it describes the attitude of limousine liberals. Normative American values are those values that are assumed to be standard in America. I suspect it alludes to ethical values, and a general, social telos, which is denounced by limousine liberals.
    One of the American users here might be able to tell you something about what is meant by "normative American values".

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/op...in&oref=slogin

    2. I have learned what " limousine liberals" is via Wikipedia

    Limousine liberal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Great!
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    Re: normative American values =?

    Thank you for your answer, Snowcake!

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    You're quite welcome.

    Have a nice evening - but I guess it's night in China, isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowcake View Post
    You're quite welcome.

    Have a nice evening - but I guess it's night in China, isn't it?

    Thank you! Yes, it is late night here, 2:57 am Beijing Time.

    There's total two time zones applied in China. One is Beijing Time, 8 hours ahead of Greenwich Time, used in the most of China; The other one is Urumqi Time, 6 hours ahead of Greenwich Time, used in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, northwest of China.

    I am located in Shanghai, so we adapt Beijing Time.

    Have a good one too.

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    #8

    Re: normative American values =?

    Oh, this is a tough one.

    These might be the type of values that are being described:
    The family unit (of mother, father, and children) is the basic unit of society.
    Hard work is the key to financial success.
    Religious institutions are the primary source of moral "rightness."
    It's the family's job to teach children right and wrong and the value of a good education, and that working hard in school wil bring you rewards later on.
    People must take responsibility for their own actions and the effects they have on others.

    I don't wish to turn this into a political debate. These are just suggestions of what "normative values" might be all about.

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    Re: normative American values =?

    Hi Barb_D,

    Thanks for your input.


    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post

    These might be the type of values that are being described:
    The family unit (of mother, father, and children) is the basic unit of society.
    Hard work is the key to financial success.
    Religious institutions are the primary source of moral "rightness."
    It's the family's job to teach children right and wrong and the value of a good education, and that working hard in school wil bring you rewards later on.
    People must take responsibility for their own actions and the effects they have on others.
    Above the normative American values are also traditional Chinese values except for the one above I highlight in red.

    I don't wish to turn this into a political debate.
    Well, you are judicious! I agree with you.

    Let's close it. Thank you!

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