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    study/learn knowledge

    Longman Dictionary says to use 'gain knowledge' instead of 'learn knowledge'. But I found in the CAE and BNC a couple of 'learn/study knowledge's. Are they right to use?

    Thank you in advance.

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    Re: study/learn knowledge

    Gain knowledge and acquire knowledge are the collocations that I am most familar with.
    Last edited by Soup; 31-May-2008 at 13:07. Reason: typo

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    Smile Re: study/learn knowledge

    Quote Originally Posted by joham View Post
    Longman Dictionary says to use 'gain knowledge' instead of 'learn knowledge'. But I found in the CAE and BNC a couple of 'learn/study knowledge's. Are they right to use?

    Thank you in advance.
    NOT A TEACHER

    You study or learn something to gain/acquire knowledge, so you can't say study/learn knowledge, in my opinion.


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    Re: study/learn knowledge

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    NOT A TEACHER

    You study or learn something to gain/acquire knowledge, so you can't say study/learn knowledge, in my opinion.

    Hi, engee! Friendly discussion time!
    I have never seen that before. Study/learn do not collocate with knowledge.
    Knowledge is understanding of a subject which has been obtained by experience or study. You can not study/learn what you obtained by study.
    I worked to gain money and I am going to work my money=I learn knowledge. Neither make sense to me.

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    Re: study/learn knowledge

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    I worked to gain money and I am going to work my money=I learn knowledge. Neither make sense to me.
    You have to work before you can get paid; similarly, you have to study something before you can acquire its meaning/usefulness, know it.

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    Re: study/learn knowledge

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    , you have to study something before you can acquire its meaning/usefulness
    but not knowledge and one does not work money.

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    Re: study/learn knowledge

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    but not knowledge and one does not work money.
    What does that mean?

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    What does that mean?
    It means we normally do not study/learn knowledge. I said it in post #4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joham View Post
    ... But I found in the CAE and BNC a couple of 'learn/study knowledge's. Are they right to use?

    Thank you in advance.
    Let me point something out to you, Joham - the devices you've been using are, in my humble opinion, really useful for linguists and language researchers. They're great to see all the development taking place in real spoken English, which is not always the best way to rely on.


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    Re: study/learn knowledge

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    Let me point something out to you, Joham - the devices you've been using are, in my humble opinion, really useful for linguists and language researchers. They're great to see all the development taking place in real spoken English, which is not always the best way to rely on.

    Many Chinese learners of English, and even many 'very good' teachers of English, will say 'learn/study knowledge' because of the influence of the Chinese collacation on English. I did so too until one day I read the entry of 'knowledge' in Longman's 4th edition. To make sure, yesterday, I searched the CAE and BNC and found to my surprise there are one or two sentences with 'learn/study knowledge'. Thus came my question above.

    Thank you all once again for your help.

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