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    Hi there,
    Are the explanations of the present perfect correct?

    1. We’ve held an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.
    (Does it mean: The campaign is still going on.)
    2. The pollution in this city has become much worse. Hasn’t the Government done anything about?
    (Does it mean: The pollution is continuing to get worse, and the Government is still not doing anything.)

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    1. We’ve held an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.
    (Does it mean: The campaign is still going on.)
    If you want to say that the campaign is still going on, it should be:
    We have been holding an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.

    2. The pollution in this city has become much worse. Hasn’t the Government done anything about?
    (Does it mean: The pollution is continuing to get worse, and the Government is still not doing anything.)

    The pollution is getting worse and the Government is not doing anything about it.


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    1. We’ve held an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.

    'campaign' suggests an effort over a period of time. The tense is in agreement with this; and suggests it may now be over.

    We have been holding an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.

    This still could suggest it is over. It is up to the speaker to clarify e.g.
    We have been holding an old clothes recycling campaign at our school. You have until next Friday to donate....

    2. The pollution in this city has become much worse. Hasn’t the Government done anything about?
    (Does it mean: The pollution is continuing to get worse, and the Government is still not doing anything.)
    No. Only that, it is worse than it was. We do not know whether the Government has been idle, or has tried measures to combat this but have failed (so that pollution did worsen.)
    Note: strictly speaking, it is not the pollution which has become worse, unless you mean some substance has increased in its toxicity. It is the 'extent of pollution' which has become worse, or 'the problem of pollution'
    Last edited by David L.; 02-Jun-2008 at 08:33.

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    Hi there,
    How about these sentences? Any difference?


    1. We’ve organised an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.
    2. We 've been organising an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.
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    1. The event is over.
    2. The event is on-going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedtmc View Post
    1. The event is over.
    2. The event is on-going.
    Without context, it is hard to tell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
    Hi there,
    How about these sentences? Any difference?


    1. We’ve organised an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.
    2. We 've been organising an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.
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    peter
    N°1. could refer to the present or the future:

    1a We’ve organised an old clothes recycling campaign at our school (and it seems to be working well.)
    1b We’ve organised an old clothes recycling campaign at our school. (It's due to start next week.)

    N° 2 means the campaign is still going on or else it finished very recently.


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    1. We’ve organised an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.
    Prior to telling me this, you have done all the planning and getting the campaign ready; and very recently the campaign was finally up and running and is still operating.

    2. We 've been organising an old clothes recycling campaign at our school.
    Sounds as if you are finished with the actually organizing, or very nearly, and so are, or will be very soon, running your campaign.


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    It could be activity vs. result
    -What have you been doing? - We've been organizing ...
    -What have you done? - We've organized ...

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