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    ASK & ASK FOR ?

    Hello my teachers......................

    I`m confused about ask and ask for.....

    In this Example:

    Ask for the menu.

    Ask the price.

    Thank you...............

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    Re: ASK & ASK FOR ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ESL-lover
    Hello my teachers......................

    I`m confused about ask and ask for.....

    In this Example:

    Ask for the menu.

    Ask the price.

    Thank you...............
    To "ask" something is to put a question to somebody. To "ask for" something is to make a request. (You might be asking for an object, or you might be asking for a favor.) Also, you can "ask" somebody "to" do something.

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    Re: ASK & ASK FOR ?

    What about theses examples:

    I asked to go home.

    I asked John to go home.

    I asked for children to have extra milk.

    Thanks.............

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    Re: ASK & ASK FOR ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ESL-lover
    What about theses examples:

    I asked to go home.

    I asked John to go home.

    I asked for children to have extra milk.

    Thanks.............
    The first two sound ok to me (meaning 'to make a request). The third one, though, is a little confusing.

    I could find two possibilities:

    I asked extra milk for the children.
    (You were out of milk and asked some more.)

    I asked the children do have (or drink) extra milk.
    (You may have thought your children needed to drink extra milk and asked them to do so.)

    I may be wrong and would like to see other comments.

    Murilo

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    Re: ASK & ASK FOR ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ESL-lover
    I asked to go home.
    That's an elliptical sentence, thus: "I asked (somebody if I could) go home." (Request.)

    Quote Originally Posted by ESL-lover
    I asked John to go home.
    You made a request of John, asking him to leave (go home).

    Quote Originally Posted by ESL-lover
    I asked for children to have extra milk.
    I asked for extra milk for the children

    or

    I asked if the children could have extra milk. (Request.)

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    Re: ASK & ASK FOR ?

    I think we usually use 'ask' as follows:
    you ask someone for something.
    I asked Ronbee if he wanted to go for a drink.
    I asked for a pint of Guinness.
    Your example of 'ask the price' is a bit of an exception to the rule and would (in my humble opinion) also be correct if you said: 'ask for the price'.
    Over to you Ronbee....

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    I asked John = I put a question to John.
    I asked for John = I told someone I wanted to speak to John.

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    Re: ASK & ASK FOR ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lib
    I think we usually use 'ask' as follows:
    you ask someone for something.
    I asked Ronbee if he wanted to go for a drink.
    I asked for a pint of Guinness.
    Your example of 'ask the price' is a bit of an exception to the rule and would (in my humble opinion) also be correct if you said: 'ask for the price'.
    Over to you Ronbee....
    Those are all good examples. :)

    Perhaps "ask the price" is BE. In AE we would probably ask what the price is, but we would be unlikely to use that word (ask).

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    Ask the price is definitely OK in BE.

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