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    Hi,
    Which of the below is incorrect:

    1/ I'll be the one who will tell the story
    2/ I'll be the one who tell the story
    3/ I'll be the one who tells the story
    4/ I am the one who tells the story
    5/ I am the one who tell the story


    Many thanks
    Newbie


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    Re: tense

    Quote Originally Posted by newbie View Post
    Hi,
    Which of the below is incorrect:

    1/ I'll be the one who will tell the story
    2/ I'll be the one who tell the story
    3/ I'll be the one who tells the story
    4/ I am the one who tells the story
    5/ I am the one who tell the story


    Many thanks
    Newbie
    @#$

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    Re: tense

    Quote Originally Posted by newbie View Post
    Hi,
    Which of the below is incorrect:

    1/ I'll be the one who will tell the story
    2/ I'll be the one who tell the story
    3/ I'll be the one who tells the story
    4/ I am the one who tells the story
    5/ I am the one who tell the story


    Many thanks
    Newbie
    1/ I'll be the one who will tell the story. Here you are using "will" twice
    2/ I'll be the one who tell the story. Here with "the one" you are using the third person so it must be "tells".
    3/ I'll be the one who tells the story.
    4/ I am the one who tells the story
    5/ I am the one who tell the story For the same reason as above.


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    Re: tense

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    1/ I'll be the one who will tell the story. Here you are using "will" twice.
    Good morning, afternoon or evening as the case may be, Bhaisahab. Do you see a problem in using 'will' twice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
    Good morning, afternoon or evening as the case may be, Bhaisahab. Do you see a problem in using 'will' twice?
    Hi riverkid,
    No, I don't see a problem with it, I didn't mark it as wrong, I was just pointing it out, although, personally, I find it a clumsy sentence.


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    Re: tense

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Hi riverkid,
    No, I don't see a problem with it, I didn't mark it as wrong, I was just pointing it out, although, personally, I find it a clumsy sentence.
    Don't you think that it could be a 'will' of one of these, Bhaisahab?

    +++++++++++++

    M-W

    will

    6 a—used to express determination, insistence, persistence, or willfulness <I have made up my mind to go and go I will> b—used to express inevitability <accidents will happen>

    7—used to express a command, exhortation, or injunction <you will do as I say, at once>

    +++++++++++++++++

    1/ I'll be the one. [who] I will tell the story.
    Last edited by riverkid; 03-Jun-2008 at 22:23.


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    Re: tense

    Thanks a lot, Riverkid. Now I just have two more questions:

    1.
    1/ I'll be the one who will tell the story
    2/ I'll be the one who tell the story

    => The action of telling is in the future, not at present. (we use "I'll be the one" before it), so is it really alright for us to use "tell" instead of "will tell" here?

    2. What about these:
    - It's you who has broken the vase
    - It's you who have broken the vase
    - It's you that has broken the vase
    - It's you that have broken the vase

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    Re: tense

    Quote Originally Posted by newbie View Post
    Thanks a lot, Riverkid. Now I just have two more questions:

    1.
    1/ I'll be the one who will tell the story.
    2/ I'll be the one who tells the story.

    => The action of telling is in the future, not at present. (we use "I'll be the one" before it), so is it really alright for us to use "tell" instead of "will tell" here?

    Sure it is, Newbie. We use different collocations to create differing nuances.

    2. What about these:
    - It's you who has broken the vase
    - It's you who have broken the vase Refers to 2 or more people.
    - It's you that has broken the vase
    - It's you that have broken the vase Refers to 2 or more people.

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    Sure it is, Newbie. We use different collocations to create differing nuances.
    => Thanks a lot, Riverkid. and if so, what's the difference between these two sentences:
    1/ I'll be the one who will tell the story.
    2/ I'll be the one who tells the story.

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    Re: tense

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
    Don't you think that it could be a 'will' of one of these, Bhaisahab?

    +++++++++++++

    M-W

    will

    6 a—used to express determination, insistence, persistence, or willfulness <I have made up my mind to go and go I will> b—used to express inevitability <accidents will happen>

    7—used to express a command, exhortation, or injunction <you will do as I say, at once>

    +++++++++++++++++

    1/ I'll be the one. [who] I will tell the story.
    Hi,
    Certainly, if you seperate the two phrases with a full stop like that.
    I will be the one. I will tell the story.

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