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    I would forget the deal even it was sweet one.
    I would forget the deal even it was a sweet one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e2e4 View Post
    Please let me know about the right way to tell this

    I would forget the deal even it was sweet one.
    I would forget the deal even it was a sweet one.

    I would forget the deal even if it was(were) a sweet one.

    I think you need "a."

    even if it was(were) a sweet deal
    even if it was(were) a sweet one

    I'm not a native speaker of English.
    Please forgive me if I'm wrong.

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    #3
    Ok seems I missed conjuction though. (thanks)

    I would forget the deal even though it was sweet one.
    I would forget the deal even though it was a sweet one.

    I wouldn't use if, were
    combination in the sentence. The sentence looks like second conditional but it isn't I think. It was a real deal, a good bargain actually. But I saw a fault with the bargain concerning his car and gave him the advice. The oil he wanted to buy was a good bargain but not the proper one for the engine he owned.

    I still have a doubt about undefinite article. (and now about the type of the sentence of course)


    In addition

    If I were you I would forget the deal even though it was sweet one.
    If I were you I would forget the deal even though it was a sweet one.
    This part in bold is second conditional.
    Last edited by e2e4; 06-Jun-2008 at 22:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e2e4 View Post
    Please let me know about the right way to tell this

    I would forget the deal even it was sweet one.
    I would forget the deal even it was a sweet one.
    It would help if you told us what you want to tell with that sentence(s).

    Without that, all we can do is beat around the bush trying to adapt your sentences to what each one of us thinks that it should mean.

    That's what I think anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    It would help if you told us what you want to tell with that sentence(s).

    Without that, all we can do is beat around the bush trying to adapt your sentences to what each one of us thinks that it should mean.

    That's what I think anyway.
    Seems you sent your message while I was writing my second post under this topic. Hopefully, the informations you asked for are given now.


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    If I were you I would forget the deal even though it is/it's a sweet one.
    Use the indefinite article - it is one deal in the class of 'deals' regarded as 'sweet' .

    Note that the verb tense should be present tense. If it 'was' a sweet deal, then the opportunity has passed - so no need to advise him not to take it!
    You are offering the advice because the deal apparently still 'is' available.

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    That's all right about using the right auxiliary in the sentence for the situation which I had explanined in my second last post. I think I understood what you had told me.

    Now seems as if my explanation from my the second last post wasn't good enough.
    Why I didn't use auxiliary is but was. I think it was not only because I do make a lot of mistakes writing in English but it was a tricky situation as it follows:

    A forum member asked an advice on the net.
    The oil had been offered to him before he started the topic writing a question about.
    I answered a few days after he had put his demand on.
    My warning to him might have already been late. His question was in the past anyway.
    I just said I wouldn't take it. I didn't know was the offer still actual.

    But after he saw my warning which had been given to him he should have taken out the oil from the engine if he might have took the bargain and put the oil in.

    Now seems to me I should have said

    I wouldn't take the deal even though it was a sweet one. instead of
    I would forget the deal even though it was a sweet one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e2e4 View Post
    That's all right about using the right auxiliary in the sentence for the situation which I had explanined in my second last post. I think I understood what you had told me.

    Now seems as if my explanation from my the second last post wasn't good enough.
    Why I didn't use auxiliary is but was. I think it was not only because I do make a lot of mistakes writing in English but it was a tricky situation as it follows:

    A forum member asked an advice on the net.
    The oil had been offered to him before he started the topic writing a question about.
    I answered a few days after he had put his demand on.
    My warning to him might have already been late. His question was in the past anyway.
    I just said I wouldn't take it. I didn't know was the offer still actual.

    But after he saw my warning which had been given to him he should have taken out the oil from the engine if he might have took the bargain and put the oil in.

    Now seems to me I should have said

    I wouldn't take the deal even though it was a sweet one. instead of
    I would forget the deal even though it was a sweet one.

    So, he actually bought the oil. Now you're giving an opinion about it, looking back in the past. (It's not a piece of advice any more, I think.) Am I correct in saying this?

    I think you could probably say...

    I would have forgotten the deal even though it had been a sweet one.
    I wouldn't have made the deal even though it had been a sweet one.
    I don't think I would have made the deal even though it was actually a sweet one.

    I'm getting confused about...this "tense" thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    So, he actually bought the oil. Now you're giving an opinion about it, looking back in the past. (It's not a piece of advice any more, I think.) Am I correct in saying this?

    I think you could probably say...

    I would have forgotten the deal even though it had been a sweet one.
    I wouldn't have made the deal even though it had been a sweet one.
    I wouldn't have taken the bargain even though it was a sweet one.
    I don't think I would have made the deal even though it was actually a sweet one.


    I'm getting confused about...this "tense" thing...
    As I already said the situation was tricky and I prefer my way.

    I wouldn't take the deal even it was a sweet one though.

    Btw I didn't know whether he bought the oil or not. Also I didn't know whether the bargain was actuall or not.

    In addition I still think that there is no need to say If I were you before my sentence. Gramatically it is there but hidden. (ellipsis)

    I am waiting to hear about the matter again but concerning the latest details which were given in my two last posts about the situation in which the sentence was written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e2e4 View Post
    As I already said the situation was tricky and I prefer my way.

    I wouldn't take the deal even it was a sweet one though.

    Btw we don't know did he bought the oil or not.

    In addition I still think that there is no need to say If I were you before my sentence. Gramatically it is there but hidden. (ellipsis)

    I am waiting to hear about the matter again but concerning the latest details which were given about the situation in which the sentence was written.
    OK.
    Let's wait for native speakers to respond.

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