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    what's the difference between that and witch in thee phrase?

    the mistake she made was to ignore to raise the money in the internet,can I always say the mistake that she made was ....or the mistake witch she made was...? Thanks

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    Re: what's the difference between that and witch in thee phrase?

    The mistake she made - OK
    The mistake that she made - OK
    The mistake which she made - I have my doubts.

    But I am not a teacher.

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    Re: what's the difference between that and witch in thee phrase?

    Quote Originally Posted by franklin xia View Post
    the mistake she made was to ignore to raise the money in the internet,can I always say the mistake that she made was ....or the mistake witch she made was...? Thanks
    That and which are interchangeable.This being defining, that is preferred.
    The mistake that she made was to ignore to raise the money in the internet.
    In spoken English,thatmay be omitted.
    Regards,
    rj1948.

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    Re: what's the difference between that and witch in thee phrase?

    It may be omitted in written English too.

    The second half of the sentence has problems, however, at least in American English.

    {not a teacher}


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    Re: what's the difference between that and witch in thee phrase?

    Quote Originally Posted by franklin xia View Post
    the mistake she made was to ignore to raise the money in the internet,can I always say the mistake that she made was ....or the mistake witch she made was...? Thanks
    If you are a student of English, you can say:
    The mistake she made / the mistake that she made / the mistake which she made
    and all three versions will be considered acceptable.

    If you are a native speaker or else extremely fluent in English, you will say The mistake she made. The reason is a bit difficult to explain in simplified terms but:

    It is because the phrase "to make a mistake" is what you call a collocation (2 or 3 words or more that are often used together, for example:
    to read a book...to commit a crime.) Some collocations are "strong" and some not so strong. to make a mistake is a strong collocation (because no other verb would go with "mistake" except the verb "make".)

    So you omit the relative pronoun (which/that) if it is the object of a relative clause where you have a strong collocation*.

    There are other reasons too why you leave out the relative pronoun but this one is the answer to your question.

    *N. MALAN, La proposition relative en anglais contemporain, Gap/Paris, Ophrys, 1999, pp. 76-77

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