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    Re: old curmudgeon

    Call me an old curmudgeon, but I don't understand why everyone is so excited about George Sampson, the 14-year-old with his shirt hanging out who danced his way to victory in Britain's Got Talent.

    I can see that he put a great deal of work into his act and I've always admired breakdancers who can spin on their heads - though I'd be lying if I said I envied them.
    Hi! The snippet I quoted is from a colonist's article from Daily Mail.

    I think "old" is redundant here because "curmudgeon" means an old bad tempered person. Right?

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    Re: old curmudgeon

    Check here curmudgeon - Definitions from Dictionary.com. Of the dictionary entries listed, only Wordnet (USA) uses the definition 'old'; a crusty irascible cantankerous old person full of stubborn ideas.

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    Re: old curmudgeon

    Hello Soup,

    Thank you.

    1. From Cambridge Dictionary
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    a bad-tempered old person
    2. From Merriam-webster
    curmudgeon - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

    a crusty, ill-tempered, and usually old man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    Check here curmudgeon - Definitions from Dictionary.com. Of the dictionary entries listed, only Wordnet (USA) uses the definition 'old'; a crusty irascible cantankerous old person full of stubborn ideas.
    Thank you, Soup.

    Jeez! Have you sold out all alphabet soup? The icon's gone.


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    Despite the dictionaries, anyone can be a curmudgeon - it implies someone bad-tempered and self-centred, lacking concern for others. The journalist is implying that old curmudgeons are worse than young ones

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    Re: old curmudgeon

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Thank you, Soup.

    Jeez! Have you sold out all alphabet soup? The icon's gone.
    I guess it's been eaten all up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    Despite the dictionaries, anyone can be a curmudgeon - it implies someone bad-tempered and self-centred, lacking concern for others. The journalist is implying that old curmudgeons are worse than young ones
    Anglika, thank you again today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    I guess it's been eaten all up.

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    Re: old curmudgeon

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi! The snippet I quoted is from a coloUMnist's article from Daily Mail.

    I think "old" is redundant here because "curmudgeon" means an old bad tempered person. Right?
    As Anglika says, a person doesn't have to be particularly old to be a curmudgeon. I think the collocation 'call me an old...' has something to with it. A young person might say, for example, 'Call me an old fool, but I still trust her'.

    Besides, Christopher Robin often called Pooh (Winnie-the-Pooh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) 'silly old bear' - where "old" has nothing much to do with age - he says 'silly old' because he's known Pooh all his life, but he's only about 6.)

    Even if it was redundant, though, I wouldn't put it past a journalist to use an extra word ; they're often paid by the word, and a columnist needs to fill the space!

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    Last edited by BobK; 11-Jun-2008 at 13:05. Reason: Clarify last sentence

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    Re: old curmudgeon

    Hi BobK, thank you very much for elucidating the usages about both "old" and "curmudgeon".

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