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    the tense of attributive clause

    Hi, Teachers.

    Please see the following two sentences:
    (1) Those who will go abroad for training next year will start learning English tomorrow.
    (2) Those who touch the wire will get an electric shock.

    Are they both grammatical? If they are, do the tenses of their attributive clauses ('will go' and 'touch') conflict? Why not 'will touch' in (2)?

    A sentence similar to (2) is as follows:
    (3) There will be a special price for anybody who orders a suit in the next two weeks.
    Why the author use 'orderes' but not 'will order' to describe an action 'in the next two weeks'?

    Another sentence I feel uncertain of is as follows:
    2010 will be the time he comes (or will come?) back.

    It would be very nice if you could provide me some explanation with some examples.

    Thanks in advance.

    Enydia
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    Re: the tense of attributive clause

    Quote Originally Posted by enydia View Post
    Hi, Teachers.

    Please see the following two sentences:
    (1) Those who will go abroad for training next year will start learning English tomorrow.
    (2) Those who touch the wire will get an electric shock.

    Are they both grammatical? If they are, do the tenses of their attributive clauses ('will go' and 'touch') conflict? Why not 'will touch' in (2)?

    A sentence similar to (2) is as follows:
    (3) There will be a special price for anybody who orders a suit in the next two weeks.
    Why the author use 'orderes' but not 'will order' to describe an action 'in the next two weeks'?

    Another sentence I feel uncertain of is as follows:
    2010 will be the time he comes (or will come?) back.

    It would be very nice if you could provide me some explanation with some examples.

    Thanks in advance.

    Enydia
    English grammar is so terrible a thing. I have consulted Collins Cobuild English Usage and now paste its explanation below and I hope it will be of help.
    In a defining relative clause, you use the simple present tense, not "will", when you are clearly referring to the future in the main clause.
    Any decision that you make will need her approval.
    Give my love to any friends you meet.
    The next woman I marry is not going to be so damned smart.

    However, you use "will" in the relative clause when you need to make it clear that you are referring to the future, or when the relative clause refers to an even later time.
    Thousands of dollars can be spent on something that will be worn for only a few minutes.
    The only people who will be killed are those who have knowledge which is dangerous to our cause.
    I sent my boys to a good public school so that they will meet peope who will be useful to them later on.

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    Re: the tense of attributive clause

    Quote Originally Posted by ohmyrichard View Post
    English grammar is so terrible a thing. I have consulted Collins Cobuild English Usage and now paste its explanation below and I hope it will be of help.
    In a defining relative clause, you use the simple present tense, not "will", when you are clearly referring to the future in the main clause.
    Any decision that you make will need her approval.
    Give my love to any friends you meet.
    The next woman I marry is not going to be so damned smart.

    However, you use "will" in the relative clause when you need to make it clear that you are referring to the future, or when the relative clause refers to an even later time.
    Thousands of dollars can be spent on something that will be worn for only a few minutes.
    The only people who will be killed are those who have knowledge which is dangerous to our cause.
    I sent my boys to a good public school so that they will meet peope who will be useful to them later on.
    very helpful!

    Thanks a bunch!

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    Re: the tense of attributive clause

    Quote Originally Posted by enydia View Post
    very helpful!

    Thanks a bunch!
    油阿外熬卡姆!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohmyrichard View Post
    油阿外熬卡姆!
    LOL~, thank you for your nice chinglish expression. *^_^*

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