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    The Chinese Rural Environment

    Hi! Could you please proofread the text below? It is a translation exercise and is not involved with my viewpoint. Thank you!



    Comparing with the past decades, nowadays Chinese peasants’ living standard has been improved noticeably. White steamed buns unaffordable for poor peasants in the old days are on the their daily menu; Electric fans, telephones, TV sets, washing machines, even air conditioners are easily accessible for Chinese peasant households; Old rundown cottages have been replaced with solid brick houses. However China pays for these at a price. Once fresh air, clean waters and green mountains of which rural folks were proud do not exist any more. The burgeoning economy is developing at the expense of rural resources and ecological environment. The main environmental changes during recent around 30 years are as below:

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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment

    In comparison with past decades, the living standards of Chinese peasants has improved noticeably. White steamed buns while unaffordable for Chinese peasants in the old days are now a part of their daily menu; Electric fans, telephones, TV sets, washing machines, even air conditioners are easily accessible for Chinese peasant households; Old rundown cottages have been replaced with solid brick houses; however, China pays for these at a price: the fresh air, clean water and green mountains of which rural folks were once proud do not exist anymore. The burgeoning economy is developing at the expense of rural resources and the environment. Within the past 30 years the following environmental changes have occured:
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    AUE: "anymore" and "any more"

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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment

    Hi, thedaffodils!
    I'm not confident enough...but please let me try.
    Below are some adjustments I would make.
    (I'm not sure how to use semi-colons properly...)

    Comparing with the past decades, nowadays Chinese peasants’ living standard has been improving noticeably. White steamed buns(Steamed white buns? White bread?) unaffordable for poor peasants in the old days are on the their daily menu; Electric fans, telephones, TV sets, washing machines, even air conditioners are easily available for Chinese peasant households; Old run-down cottages have been replaced with solid brick houses. However China is going to have to pay for these. Fresh air, clean waters and green mountains of which rural folks were once proud do not exist any more. The burgeoning economy is developing at the expense of rural resources and ecological environment. The main environmental changes occurred for the past 30 years are as below:


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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment


    Soup's correction is much better!!
    She was much faster!! Please ignore mine!

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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment

    Hi Soup & tzfujimino:

    Thank you very much for your help. And soup, I'm glad to learn differences between "any more" and "anymore".

    I have two questions about your corrections:

    Q1: Why should the verb -"improve" which serves as the predicate for "living standards" be passive voice?

    I think we say " we improve our living standard", right? So living standard is improved.

    Q2: Soup, I notice that you use "plural form" for "living standard". If I refer to the living standard of the whole Chinese peasant class rather than any individual, is it okay to write it in singular?

    I look forward to your kind help again. Thank you!

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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Q1: Why should the verb -"improve" which serves as the predicate for "living standards" be passive voice?

    I think we say " we improve our living standard", right? So living standard is improved.

    Q2: Soup, I notice that you use "plural form" for "living standard". If I refer to the living standard of the whole Chinese peasant class rather than any individual, is it okay to write it in singular?
    1. Use passive voice if the subject is unknown;e.g., The universe was created [by?].

    2. Right. It's usually singular. Sorry. Let's change it: the standard of living in rural areas ...

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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    1. Use passive voice if the subject is unknown;e.g., The universe was created [by?].

    2. Right. It's usually singular. Sorry. Let's change it: the standard of living in rural areas ...

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    I eat white steamed buns every day.
    That's because you have lived in China for some time and know something about Chinese culture. And really they are white. Then you neglect the awkwardness in "white steamed buns." Geoge W. Bush, when asked by European school children about what the White House was like, answered, "It's white."

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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment

    1. Use passive voice if the subject is unknown;e.g., The universe was created [by?].

    I think I understood the usage of passive voice basically. But I am in the dark about "improve" and "voice".

    2. Right. It's usually singular. Sorry. Let's change it: the standard of living in rural areas ...

    Thanks for your clarification.

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    I eat white steamed buns every day.

    Is it also easily available in Canada too?
    Well, I'd like to stick to "improve". It is usually passive voice for "improve" in Mandarin if the subject is not a person. Do you think both active and passive voices are correct as "ohmyrichard" suggests above?

    For example, we need to improve the air quality so we had to close polluted factories. Now air quality has (been) improved (by us.)

    I think air quality can not improve by itself if without our efforts. So I use passive voice. Any other way to let me understand yours? Or I am afraid I have to remember it by rote.
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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment

    Hi tzfujimino,

    You are doing well. How could I ignore your kind attempt to help me out? Thank you very much!!

    Here's a picture of steamed buns. It is one of popular staple food for the people in the north China. I am from the south. We don't eat that much.

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    However China is going to have to pay for these.
    By the way, China has paid for the consequences. It is bitter.
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    re: The Chinese Rural Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi tzfujimino,

    You are doing well. How could I ignore your kind attempt to help me out? Thank you very much!!

    Here's a picture of steamed buns. It is one of popular staple food for the people in the north China. I am from the south. We don't eat that much.



    By the way, China has paid for the consequences. It is bitter.
    Thank you.
    Oh....I got it(white steamed buns)!!
    Yes! I love them! They are easily available at convenience stores in Japan!(Sorry for the digression..)

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