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    1-He spoke to me as a father to a son.
    2-He spoke to me as a father does to a son.
    3-He spoke to me as a father would to a son.

    In which case:
    a-He wasn't my father but spoke to me in the way a father would
    and in which case:
    b-He was my father and spoke to me in that capacity


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    1. he is not your father
    2. He could be your father; or you could be talking generally
    3. ditto

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    [quote=navi tasan;309718]

    In which case:

    a-He wasn't my father but spoke to me in the way a father would
    1-He spoke to me as a father to a son.
    2-He spoke to me as a father does to a son.
    3-He spoke to me as a father would to a son.
    and in which case:

    b-He was my father and spoke to me in that capacity
    1-He spoke to me as a father to a son. <See note>
    2-He spoke to me as a father does to a son.
    3-He spoke to me as a father would to a son.
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    Sam: I met my birth father for the first time today, and even though I don't see him as my father, he spoke to me as a father [would speak] to a son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post


    1-He spoke to me as a father to a son.
    2-He spoke to me as a father does to a son.
    3-He spoke to me as a father would to a son.

    In which case:
    a-He wasn't my father but spoke to me in the way a father would
    and in which case:
    b-He was my father and spoke to me in that capacity
    I think you will get different answers to this question, as the interpretation is quite subjective.

    If he was your father, I think all 3 can be used.

    If he wasn't your father, I would not use 1. I would use 3 and maybe 2.
    The reason for the conversation and the details of it could certainly
    influence your choice.

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    Re: as

    Thank you all.
    I think there is one other possibility that I hadn't thought about:

    He spoke to me as father to son.

    Actually I think this one can only be used if he is my father.


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    There would have to be more to the sentence to be sure of that.
    An uncle might speak to me as father to son.

    For the first time, the cold, aloof sergeant major of a parent was gone, and he spoke to me as father to son, loving and caring of my welfare.

    Either that, or the sentence would come after it had been established earlier that this man was your parent; or that the person you were talking to knows that you are talking about his male parent.

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    #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    There would have to be more to the sentence to be sure of that.
    An uncle might speak to me as father to son.

    For the first time, the cold, aloof sergeant major of a parent was gone, and he spoke to me as father to son, loving and caring of my welfare.

    Either that, or the sentence would come after it had been established earlier that this man was your parent; or that the person you were talking to knows that you are talking about his male parent.
    I request David L to be more specific.


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    I think it would be ineteresting to compare here:
    'to do sth as sb' and 'to do sth like sb'
    Cf.: She was talking as a teacher. (she was a teacher)
    She was talking like a teacher. (she wasn't a teacher, but pretended to be one)


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    Clark:
    Very good point, and comes a long way in clarifying the meaning of the speaker
    However, look at this:
    He spoke as a father. (The man is a policeman, but he has young kids of his own, so when he saw these kids playing up, he didn't come the heavy policeman - he didn't talk to them in his role as a policeman, but as a father of children of that age himself, and so rather than laying down the law, points out what they are doing wrong and the possible dangers or adverse consequences.)

    Venkatasu:
    There would have to be more to the sentence to be sure of that.
    An uncle might speak to me as father to son.

    For the first time, the cold, aloof sergeant major of a parent was gone, and he spoke to me as father to son, loving and caring of my welfare.

    Either that, or the sentence would come after it had been established earlier that this man was your parent; or that the person you were talking to knows that you are talking about his male parent.
    I request David L to be more specific.



    An uncle might speak to me as a father does to his son.
    I then give further explanatory detail
    J****s C******t - what blood do you want?
    What is still the confusion??

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