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    changing singular to plural

    Students were given the question:

    Q1. The pig's pen is in the field.

    This was then followed by 3 pictures: (1) 1 pig (2) 2 pigs (3) a dog. The student has to circle the meaning of "pig's".

    The student was then trying to change the sentence into a plural form for the animal, e.g. The pigs' pen is in the field.

    The question is how do you change the following to the plural form:

    A fish's home is in the sea.

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    Re: changing singular to plural

    The pig's pen is in the field.
    The pigs' pens are in the field.
    The pig pens are in the field.

    A fish's home is in the sea. <children>
    The fishies' homes are in the sea. <children>
    The fish's homes are in the sea.
    The fishes' homes are in the sea.

    From How Can I Correctly Use Apostrophes?
    When a plural word is the same as a singular word, such as the word fish, apostrophes can get a bit more confusing. If you are discussing a single fish, the correct form is fish's to indicate possession. Words that are pluralized with es, generally indicate possession by placing the apostrophe at the end of the word. Some scientists use the term fishes to talk about more than one species of fish at the same time. For example: The difference in these fishes' habitats is amazing.
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    Fish does have a regular plural form, but it differs in meaning from the unmarked plural; fishes refers to several species or other taxonomic types, while fish (plural) is used to describe multiple individual animals: one would say "the order of fishes," but "five fish in an aquarium."

    Fish: the plural for one species of fish, or caught fish, is fish, but for live fish of many species, in poetic usage, and in some dialects fishes is used.
    From Grammar Blog
    Fish's habitats or fishes' habitats would be correct because the plural of fish, ... You will never see something like fishs' because there is no such word.

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    Re: changing singular to plural

    Quote Originally Posted by scullion5 View Post
    Students were given the question:

    Q1. The pig's pen is in the field.

    This was then followed by 3 pictures: (1) 1 pig (2) 2 pigs (3) a dog. The student has to circle the meaning of "pig's".

    The student was then trying to change the sentence into a plural form for the animal, e.g. The pigs' pen is in the field.

    The question is how do you change the following to the plural form:

    A fish's home is in the sea.
    Isn't it "Fish's home is in the sea"? If you don't intend to mean different species of fish, just use the plural form of fish. Hey, you are a native speaker, aren't you? And since you live in Britain, you can ask anyone around you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohmyrichard View Post
    Isn't it "Fish's home is in the sea"? If you don't intend to mean different species of fish, just use the plural form of fish. Hey, you are a native speaker, aren't you? And since you live in Britain, you can ask anyone around you.
    Home should be plural. The question is a tough one, even for native English speakers.


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    [quote=Soup;311153]The pig's pen is in the field.
    The pigs' pens are in the field.
    The pig pens are in the field.

    A fish's home is in the sea. <children>
    The fishies' homes are in the sea. <children>
    The fish's homes are in the sea.
    The fishes' homes are in the sea.

    Question relating to making the 'home/pen' plural:

    The pigs' pen is in the field i.e a number of pigs living in the same pen

    and

    the pigs' pens are in the field i.e. a number of pigs living in different pens

    Firstly, am I correct in the meaning and secondly, can the same be applied to fishes'? i.e.

    (1) The fishes' home is in the sea. i.e. a number of fish living in the sea in general without being specific about where in the sea

    and

    (2) The fishes' homes are in the sea. i.e. a number of fish living in the sea and also indicating that they have different homes


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    Hey, you are a native speaker, aren't you? And since you live in Britain, you can ask anyone around you.[/quote]

    Firstly, please note that I am not in Britain and secondly, the cure for ignorance is to seek knowledge! Never presume anyone knows everything, even if they are a native speaker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scullion5 View Post
    Hey, you are a native speaker, aren't you? And since you live in Britain, you can ask anyone around you.
    Firstly, please note that I am not in Britain and secondly, the cure for ignorance is to seek knowledge! Never presume anyone knows everything, even if they are a native speaker.[/quote]

    Careful, everyone. We can't see smiles on the internet. I agree, though, that careful checking of people's current location is a good move. For those in doubt, UAE = United Arab Emirates.

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    Re: changing singular to plural

    Quote Originally Posted by scullion5 View Post
    Hey, you are a native speaker, aren't you? And since you live in Britain, you can ask anyone around you.
    Firstly, please note that I am not in Britain and secondly, the cure for ignorance is to seek knowledge! Never presume anyone knows everything, even if they are a native speaker.[/quote]
    I'm sorry to have mistaken UAE for UK. I accept your criticism. At first glance, this question is easy. But actually it is tough as Soup said.


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    Thank you for your input; please continue to give whatever advice you can.

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    Re: changing singular to plural

    The pigs' pen/it is in the field.
    The pigs' pens/they are in the field.

    The fish's/their home is in the sea.
    The fish's/their homes are in the sea. :tick

    Hope that helps.

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