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    remaking of six sentences 2

    Dear teachers,

    Would you be kind enough verify the remaking of the following six sentences, using different collocations with the verb “do” instead of the italicized words and phrases?

    1.1. I want to have my room whietwashed and papered this spring.
    1.2. I want to have my room done up this spring.

    2.1. We were told he took his share in organizing that amateur performance.
    2.2. We were told he did his bit in organizing that amateur performance.

    3.1. Mary will have to look after her nice and nephew while her sister is in hospital
    3.2. Mary will have to do for her niece and nephew while her sister is in hospital.

    4.1. Mr. White is ruined due to his unruly sons.
    4.2. Mr. White is done for due to his unruly sons.

    5.1. I’m sure this new medicine will have good effect on his health.
    5.2. I’m sure this new medicine will do him good.

    6.1. If you want to make up your face, go to the powder room, please.
    6.2. If you want to do up your face, go to the powder room, please.

    Thank you for your efforts.

    Regards.

    V.

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    Re: remaking of six sentences 2

    Vil, most of these uses seem BrE, not AmE, so the only pair I speak to with authority is the one with "do him good," which is used correctly.

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    Re: remaking of six sentences 2

    Hi vil, they are all good except 6:2, the usual expression is "do your face".

    6.2. If you want to do up your face, go to the powder room, please.

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    Re: remaking of six sentences 2

    Hi Barb_D,

    Thank you for your effort kelp me.

    There are a few explanatory notes. I have used information straight from the horse’s mouth namely Answer.com.

    Take one’s share, hold one’s share, do one’s share
    do one’s bit, also do one's part. Make an individual contribution to an overall effort. For example,
    You can always rely on Anne to do her bit, or
    I'm anxious to do my part as a board member.
    look after


    Also, look out for; see after. Take care of, attend to the safety or well-being of, as in
    Please look after your little brother, or
    We left Jane to look out for the children, or
    Please see after the luggage.
    do for
    1. Bring about the death, defeat, or ruin of, as in He swore he'd do for him. This usage is often put in the passive voice (see done for).
    2. Care or provide for, take care of, as in They decided to hire a housekeeper to do for Grandmother.


    done for
    1. Exhausted, worn out, as in
    This old computer is just about done for. Also see done in.
    2. Doomed to death or destruction, as in
    Before he went to the hospital it seemed as if he was done for.
    done in = exhausted, very tired, as in After that hike I felt absolutely done in.
    ruined = destroyed physically or morally; doomed to extinction

    make up = change one's appearance; apply cosmetics.
    do up = use special care in dressing, making-up, etc.

    Regards.

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    Re: remaking of six sentences 2

    Quote Originally Posted by vil View Post
    Dear teachers,

    3.1. Mary will have to look after her nice and nephew while her sister is in hospital
    3.2. Mary will have to do for her niece and nephew while her sister is in hospital.
    "To do for" isn't something I've ever come across.

    Other than in the case of "that will have to do for now" - meaning for example "right now, this is the best we can do".

    An alternative I would suggest is,

    "Mary will have to take care of her niece and nephew......"


    I'm not a teacher.

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    Re: remaking of six sentences 2

    Quote Originally Posted by colloquium View Post
    "To do for" isn't something I've ever come across.

    Other than in the case of "that will have to do for now" - meaning for example "right now, this is the best we can do".

    An alternative I would suggest is,

    "Mary will have to take care of her niece and nephew......"


    I'm not a teacher.
    "To do for" is an expression, albeit old fashioned which means "to take care of" to look after". To do (something) for you.

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    Re: remaking of six sentences 2

    I am familiar with did his share, but not took his share.



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    Hi bhaisahab,

    Thank you for your affirmative reply as well as for your relevant correction of the expression "do up her face".

    Thank you also for your zealost seconding.

    Regards.

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    Re: remaking of six sentences 2

    Hi RonBee,

    Thank you for your interest to my doing-over.

    There is pointed the way of my reasoning in order to utilize the expression in question (“take share”) in my wording.
    I follow in the train of the next expression: take place – take participation – go shares - take share. As far as I can see, if “share” = “one's proper or expected function in a common effort”: “part”, “piece”, “role” and there is an idiom as “take part” = “lay a role in”, “participate”, as in “Will you be taking part in the wedding?” I don’t see a well-founded hold-back to pieceful co-existence of the idiom “take share”.

    Please excuse my aberration but playing with words and their meaning is my hobby.

    Regards.

    V.

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    Re: remaking of six sentences 2

    Yes, you can say "take part" (participate). As for "do one's share" I would expect that to be used to mean that a person is doing what he is expected to do or supposed to do.


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