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    broken heart

    is it right to say :she had her heart broken ?


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    Re: broken heart

    Quote Originally Posted by chameleon2 View Post
    is it right to say :she had her heart broken ?
    Yes.

    It is the passive past perfect tense.

    "She had her heart broken before she moved to London".

    It is used to show that the action happened before something else which also happened in the past, before the time of speaking.

    I'm not a teacher.

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    Re: broken heart

    Quote Originally Posted by colloquium View Post
    Yes.

    It is the passive past perfect tense.

    "She had her heart broken before she moved to London".

    It is used to show that the action happened before something else which also happened in the past, before the time of speaking.

    I'm not a teacher.
    thank you
    but i wonder if it's common to use it to describe the tragic end of love story?
    if x asked me :what's the latest in the town ?
    and i answered: the hottest issue is that x has had her heart broken.
    is it right like that ? is it a common use ...?

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    Re: broken heart

    I am not a teacher either.

    In reported speech, it's quite usual to use the passive form.
    You can say
    "someone broke her heart" - "she had her heart broken",
    or
    "someone has broken her heart" - "she has had her heart broken"

    Last edited by Kraken; 20-Jun-2008 at 23:53. Reason: typo


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    Re: broken heart

    Quote Originally Posted by chameleon2 View Post
    thank you
    but i wonder if it's common to use it to describe the tragic end of love story?
    if x asked me :what's the latest in the town ?
    and i answered: the hottest issue is that x has had her heart broken.
    is it right like that ? is it a common use ...?
    Yes, I think so. It changes the tense of the sentence to the present perfect.

    Therefore it doesn't need to come before another past event, as with the first example, and refers to something which happened at an unspecified point in the past.

    However, I'm a little bit confused about whether "broken" still acts as a verb or whether it becomes an adjective. Maybe someone could expalin this to me? That is, assuming that I haven't got else everything completely wrong!

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    Re: broken heart

    many thanks guys for your prompt reply....
    really appreciated


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    Re: broken heart

    I just want to add the fact that I was wrong in claiming the above sentences are passive.

    They are in fact causative constructions.

    Although the sentences themselves are nonetheless correct, I don't want to spread misinformation (especially in an "ask a teacher " section!).

    I credit Soup for helping me correct this.

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