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    #1

    "Being" as tired as I was

    Please focus on (1).

    (1) Being as tired as I was, I fell asleep quickly that night.

    Now do you accept (1) in the sense of "Because I was tired, I fell asleep quickly that night."?

    Any comments, especially from speakers who feel (2) sounds weird, will be appreciated.

    (2) As tired as I was, I fell asleep quickly that night.
    (V. Sherrard, Eyes of a Stalker)

    Thank you in advance
    Seiichi MYOGA

    My post here is related to this:
    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...g-tired-i.html

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    #2

    Re: "Being" as tired as I was

    No question about it, for me as a native NZ English speaker, that "being" makes all the difference. I now read it as "because (or since) I was so tired, ..."


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    Re: "Being" as tired as I was

    Quote Originally Posted by Seiichi MYOGA View Post
    Please focus on (1).

    (1) Being as tired as I was, I fell asleep quickly that night.

    Now do you accept (1) in the sense of "Because I was tired, I fell asleep quickly that night."?

    Any comments, especially from speakers who feel (2) sounds weird, will be appreciated.

    (2) As tired as I was, I fell asleep quickly that night.
    (V. Sherrard, Eyes of a Stalker)

    Thank you in advance
    Seiichi MYOGA

    My post here is related to this:
    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...g-tired-i.html
    I agree with Stuart and Seiichi, in the sense that the example with 'being' changes the meaning. But I didn't feel, at the outset, that (2) was weird at all. That changed into puzzlement because of some perceptive comments, but I'm still back at the point where I don't think it's weird. See my response in the other thread.

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    #4

    Re: "Being" as tired as I was

    Quote Originally Posted by Seiichi MYOGA View Post
    Please focus on (1).

    (1) Being as tired as I was, I fell asleep quickly that night.

    Now do you accept (1) in the sense of "Because I was tired, I fell asleep quickly that night."?

    Any comments, especially from speakers who feel (2) sounds weird, will be appreciated.

    (2) As tired as I was, I fell asleep quickly that night.
    (V. Sherrard, Eyes of a Stalker)

    Thank you in advance
    Seiichi MYOGA

    My post here is related to this:
    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...g-tired-i.html
    It is certainly clearer with 'being' but I don't find (2) weird, a bit 'literary' maybe.

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    #5

    Re: "Being" as tired as I was

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    It is certainly clearer with 'being' but I don't find (2) weird, a bit 'literary' maybe.
    Not just 'clearer', to my ear. The 'as tired as I was' construction sounds to me adversative: "As tired as I was, I couldn't get to sleep" [="Although I was tired, I couldn't get to sleep"/"I couldn't get to sleep in spite of being tired"].

    (Your mileage may vary, though. V. Sherrard's does, to judge from that snippet. )

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    #6

    Re: "Being" as tired as I was

    PS

    A more literary version of this adversative usage is:

    Tired though I was, I couldn't get to sleep.

    This is reminiscent of a traditional cliché said before a speech: 'Unaccustomed as I am to public speaking...'.

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    #7

    Re: "Being" as tired as I was

    Dear stuartnz, riverkid, bhaisahab, and BobK,

    I appreciate all of your help and comments.

    Seiichi MYOGA
    Last edited by Seiichi MYOGA; 22-Jun-2008 at 04:08.

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    #8

    Re: "Being" as tired as I was

    I find it a bit curious that everybody seems to equate tiredness with sleepiness. However, a person can be tired without being sleepy, and vice versa.


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