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    #1

    become of

    I would like to know the difference between "1" and "2"
    1. This may become an issue.
    2. This may become of an issue.


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    #2

    Re: become of

    Number one is right. I do not see why you used "of" in number two. Sentence number two sounds akward.
    ( I'm not a teacher).

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    #3

    Re: become of

    Hi wowenglish1,

    become of = happen to

    regards


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    Re: become of

    henz988:

    become of = happen to
    This is one meaning of 'become' as in
    "Whatever became of that pop star who sang "Jibby Jabby Jubby?"

    In this context, in the sentence wowenglish1 gives, it has the meaning
    'begin to be'

    Something 'begins to be issue', 'becomes an issue'
    compare use of 'of an issue':
    "Speed and complex material will be less of an issue to the reader, if he has good spectacles."
    "Each student will develop arguments on both sides of an issue to see how it feels to understand opposing views." .

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    Re: become of

    Thank you David L..

    Is 'begin to be' a meaning in commom usage or just a “makeshift” meaning of become of? There seems no such meaning under the entry of become of both in
    http://www.oup.com/oald-bin/web_getald7index1a.pl
    and http://www.answers.com.


    Certainly, in the sentence wowenglish1 gives, it has the meaning 'begin to be', but it is become and not become of ? I don't know if I have followed you well?
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    Re: become of

    henz988:
    This is what you wrote:
    Hi wowenglish1,

    become of = happen to
    regards


    I was pointing out this was one meaning of 'become' when combined with 'of'

    wowenglish1 quoted:
    This may become of an issue.
    with the intended meaning, 'will begin to be'.
    We can use the 'become of' construction with this meaning when we are referring to 'states' of being:
    "The amount of pollution in rivers becomes of importance when mercury levels rise to.."
    an 'issue' is not a 'state', so that the sentence "This may become of an issue" is using this construction erroneously.

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    Re: become of

    Thank you, and you have riched my usage of become of.

    Further, please spare me seconds more:
    What does the of mean in "...boceme of importance..." ?


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    Re: become of

    'become of' as in 'become of importance' means, 'reaches the level where it is now considered' important/'begins to be' important

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    Re: become of

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    'become of' as in 'become of importance' means, 'reaches the level where it is now considered' important/'begins to be' important

    Quote Originally Posted by henz988 View Post
    Thank you, and you have ENriched my usage of become of.

    Further, please spare me another few seconds [more]:
    What does the of mean in "...boceme of importance..." ?
    You can't ask this! A word only has a meaning in its context The word "of" can be used to link the words "become" and a few abstract nouns, with a meaning similar to "become + <the-relevant-adjective>". So all these are near-enough equivalent:

    become of importance => become important
    become of interest => become interesting
    became of benefit => became beneficial
    became of significance => became significant

    Other "of <abstract-noun>"/"<related-adjective" pairs are "of substance"/"substantial" and "of convenience"/"convenient", but these are less likely to collocate with "become". Also the close equivalence of the other examples is much less strong. "A man of substance" can be quite small; he just has a lot of money or power or influence or standing in society; "a substantial man" is just big - he could be a pauper. (This is reminiscent, for Francophones, of the distinction un grand homme/un homme grand.) And "of convenience" is relatively rare, apart from a few collocations. The BNC provides these examples:
    1 BALANCE OF CONVENIENCE 18
    2 MARRIAGE OF CONVENIENCE 17
    3 SAKE OF CONVENIENCE 13
    4 FLAGS OF CONVENIENCE 11
    5 FLAG OF CONVENIENCE 11
    6 MATTER OF CONVENIENCE 9
    7 REASONS OF CONVENIENCE 2
    8 GROUNDS OF CONVENIENCE 2
    9 FLOODS OF CONVENIENCE 2
    10 USE OF CONVENIENCE 1
    .
    .
    .
    (and several more with only one hit. Besides, 1, 3, 6, 7, and 8 all refer to "convenientness" in general, and so are irrelevant to cases where something is 'convenient' for a particular reason; and 9 looks very odd [the context must explain it - they both come from political speeches, and I suspect they played on the analogy of 'marriage of convenience' for rhetorical effect]. Moreover, 4 and 5 are essentially the same. So there are only two of any significance.)

    But, in any case, making guesses about equivalence would be risky. There are, however a few incomplete pairs:

    become boring but not become of boredom
    become happy but not become of happiness
    become ridiculous but not become of ridicule (This one might occur, because of the collocation 'an object of ridicule'.)

    I can't see a rule here. You just have to get to know what works.

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    Last edited by BobK; 08-Jul-2008 at 12:58. Reason: added a lot about "of significance" and "of convenience"

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    Re: become of

    I just edited my previous post,with many more examples and comments. For the convenience of RSS users here is a link: https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...tml#post317604 .

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