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    Verb form as Noun

    The first thing I do is eat dinner.

    In this sentence the verb of the sentence is IS, which I believe is a linking verb here, as it links the subject--first thing I do--with information about it EAT DINNER.

    Is eat dinner there a noun? What is eat here?


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    Re: Verb form as Noun

    The first thing (that I do when I get home from work) is, I eat dinner.

    Does that help?

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    Re: Verb form as Noun

    Not much. I need much more analysis this time
    For me, who is a learner from abroad, the sentence is a bit odd.
    Dear teachers first I am going to say how I do see the matter afterwhat I would like to get a deep and a correct analysis.

    So

    What is the first thing for you to do when you've got home?
    The first thing, I do, is eat dinner.

    The first thing, ~ subject
    I do,
    (a complete clause, in which the verb do is used as a copula to I I haven't read ever that the verb do is usually used as a copula)
    is (the verb to be which is used as a copula with the first thing)
    eat dinner. (object?)

    Which kind (type) of the sentences this one belongs to?
    How many clauses the sentence is formed by? Show the sentences please.
    Is it
    1)The first thing is eat dinner
    2)I do

    The first thing, I do, ~ it could be an inversion also? Has the object the first thing become the subject in the inversion.
    Has the informal sentence, which I am trying to understand, been derived from these two as it follows

    When I've got home I do the first thing, first.
    It is eat dinner.

    As I already said I need a complete analysis by a teacher.

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    Re: Verb form as Noun

    Ex: The first thing (that) I do when I get home is eat dinner.

    the first thing (that) I do is the subject.
    when I get home is an adverbial.
    is eat dinner is the predicate.
    eat dinner is a subject complement.

    See slides 9 and 10 here http://www.wisc.edu/english/rfyoung/324/Functions.pdf

    See also https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...mple-verb.html

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    Dear Soup

    thanks for the help but I asked about this original sentence

    The first thing I do is eat dinner.

    The sentence has been ignored two times and there were given such the analysis but about modified one.
    Does it mean the grammar's not been correct in the original one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by e2e4 View Post
    Dear Soup

    thanks for the help but I asked about this original sentence

    The first thing I do is eat dinner.

    The sentence has been ignored two times and there were given such the analysis but about modified one.
    Does it mean the grammar's not been correct in the original one?
    First off, it hasn't been ignored at all. Its underlying structure was provided for you to give you a better idea of its mechanics.

    To provide the answer you want (hopefully), the first thing is a noun phrase, and the noun thing is modified by the clause I do, elliptical for (that) I do.Note, do is not a copular verb; it's the main verb of the modifying clause. The copular and main verb of the sentence is underlined:
    Ex: The first thing I do is eat dinner.
    The copular verb joins the subject the first thing (that) I do with its subject complement eat dinner, elliptical for the clause I eat dinner:
    Ex: The first thing I do is (I) eat dinner.
    The subject of the complement clause (in our example I) is often omitted because it's redundant. Add it in and the verb changes in the 3rd person:
    Ex: The first thing she does is she eats dinner. <finite>
    Ex: The first thing she does is (to) eat dinner. <non-finite>
    Does that help? If not, you may have to reword your question.

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    Re: Verb form as Noun

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    The subject of the complement clause (in our example I) is often omitted because it's redundant. Add it in and the verb changes in the 3rd person:
    Ex: The first thing she does is she eats dinner. <finite>
    Ex: The first thing she does is (to) eat dinner. <non-finite>
    Does that help? If not, you may have to reword your question.
    Keep on good working soup!

    I was going to ask a question about the sentence with the full infinitive to eat instead of eat but has given up leaving it for the next post.
    to eat ~ full infinitive
    eat ~ simple present

    but the answer's been given before my ask a question about.

    In addition
    answering to the question

    What is the first thing for you to do when you've got home I would say
    For me the first thing to do is to eat dinner
    For me the first thing is to eat dinner.
    For me, to eat dinner.
    For me, to eat. (four words only)

    For me, eat.
    Does this work? If so which the answer to use if I am to answer to a man which is not my good friend?
    Actually, my dilema is, could For me, to eat or For me, eat be an official answer to every pearson in every situation?

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    Re: Verb form as Noun

    The phrase For me is redundant and, moreover, doesn't work here with the to-infinitive:
    [1] For me, the first thing to do is to eat dinner. <awkward>

    Try,
    • The first thing I need to do is (that I need) to eat dinner.
    • The first thing (that) I do is (that) I eat dinner.
    • The first thing (that) I do is (that I) eat dinner. <subject ellipsis>
    • The first thing that I do is that I eat dinner.

    [2] The first thing (that I need to do) is (that I need) to eat dinner.
    [3] For me, to eat dinner.
    [4] For me, to eat.
    [5] For me, eat (dinner) (is the first thing (that) I do).

    You can use all of the above with whomever.

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