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    Hi,

    Can someone please tell me which one is correct to say?

    There's no need of a book. - or - There's no need for a book.

    Aren't you in the mood of studying? - or - Aren't you in the mood of studying?

    Don't you have any plans of sleeping? - or - Don't you have any plans for sleeping?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Nutty View Post
    Hi,

    Can someone please tell me which one is correct to say?

    There's no need of a book. - or - There's no need for a book. Either is fine.

    Aren't you in the mood of studying? - or - Aren't you in the mood for studying?

    Don't you have any plans of sleeping? - or - Don't you have any plans for sleeping? Either could be used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Nutty View Post
    Hi,

    Can someone please tell me which one is correct to say?

    There's no need of a book. - or - There's no need for a book.

    Aren't you in the mood of studying? - or - Aren't you in the mood of studying?

    Don't you have any plans of sleeping? - or - Don't you have any plans for sleeping?
    I came across "need for" but there is also "to be in need of".
    Now something I am not 100% sure about:
    Plans for sleeping works and plans to sleep. Which is better? Or perhaps plans on sleeping? Any native?
    Last edited by banderas; 05-Jul-2008 at 01:30. Reason: typo

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    Thank you very much, Anglika.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    There's no need of a book. - or - There's no need for a book. Either is fine. Isn't there any difference between their implications?


    Don't you have any plans of sleeping? - or - Don't you have any plans for sleeping? Either could be used. Do they both mean the same?

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    Re: of/for

    Nominal
    Ex: There is a requirement/need for teachers in this city.

    Verbal
    Ex: We require/are in need of teachers in this city.


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    Plans for sleeping works and plans to sleep. Which is better? Or perhaps plans on sleeping? Any native?

    "I hope you don't have any plans for sleeping here tonight, after how you treated me at the party!" (girlfriend/boyfriend row)

    "He's going to one of those rock concerts in a field and plans to sleep in a tent for a whole week."

    "He's working all hours on call at the hospital this weekend. He plans on sleeping (=getting some sleep)/plans on grabbing some sleep in between calls to see him through to Monday."

    The next question is, 'what is the difference that a different preposition is used'?
    Last edited by David L.; 05-Jul-2008 at 10:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    The next question is, 'what is the difference that a different preposition is used'?
    What about?

    plan on + gerund = expect
    plan to + infinitive = expect
    plan for + gerund = make preparations for/prepare for the future

    Phrasal Verbs for ESL students to practice


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    What about?

    1. plan on + gerund = expect
    2 plan to + infinitive = expect
    3 plan for + gerund = make preparations for/prepare for the future


    <My suggestion would be for 2, that it is 'intends'
    He doesn't 'expect' = hope, anticipate as in 1
    He probably has already made preparations - he's going and knows what he is going to do sleeping-wise when he gets there. That's why mother or whoever is taken aback. So not 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    What about?

    plan on + gerund = expect
    plan to + infinitive = expect
    plan for + gerund = make preparations for/prepare for the future

    Phrasal Verbs for ESL students to practice

    Great! You made it so clear and understandable. Thank you!

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