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    clause

    Do you know how often the buses leave for the city?
    Are the colored parts clauses? especially the red part?
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    Re: clause

    Quote Originally Posted by daisy1352 View Post
    Do you know how often the buses leave for the city?
    (This is a sentence. In this sentence, "how often the buses leave for the city" is a clause.)
    Are the colored parts clauses? especially the red part?
    Thanks
    The other clauses are:
    1.Question words+Subject+Verb+Object/Complement
    why you are late
    what you want
    where you want to stay
    how you go there
    how many people there are in the school
    2. Noun +which/who/that/+Subject+Verb
    a flower that/which I like
    the song which/that Mr. Smith sang yesterday
    Jasmine who I love
    3.Subject+who/which/that+Verb+Object/Complement
    Mr. Smith who is my brother
    the dog which/that was killed yesterday
    the flower that is on the table

    These clauses are "noun". Therefore you can use in the "subject position" and "object position".
    I want to know what you want.
    What I want is a car.
    Jasmine who I love is my class-mate.
    She is Jasmine who I love.
    The flower that is on the table is rose.
    I like the flower that is on the table.

    I think there are other caluses.
    That's all I know now.

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    Re: clause

    Quote Originally Posted by daisy1352 View Post
    Do you know how often the buses leave for the city?
    Are the colored parts clauses? especially the red part?
    Thanks
    Yes, they are both main clauses (containing a finite verb) joined by the conjunction "how often".

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    Re: clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Yes, they are both main clauses (containing a finite verb) joined by the conjunction "how often".
    As a non native speaker, what I know is:
    We can’t say “Do you know” is a main clause. “How often the buses leave for the city” is a noun clause. It performs as a noun in the sentence. Therefore it is an object in the sentence. For example, “Do you know him?” Would you say that “Do you know” is a main clause in the sentence?

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    Re: clause

    whitemoon went:

    “How often the buses leave for the city” is a noun clause. It performs as a noun in the sentence. Therefore it is an object in the sentence.
    Yes, it's an object complement.

    For example, “Do you know him?” Would you say that “Do you know” is a main clause in the sentence?

    No, there's only one clause in that sentence - the whole sentence itself.
    But this is a very tenuous way of arguing, taking part of a phrase, rearranging it, and arguing a point about the grammar of the original example.


    For example "Do you know that he is African?"
    Would you say that "Do you know" is the main clause in this sentence. If not, why not? And what is your definition of a main clause?
    Last edited by Raymott; 10-Jul-2008 at 07:25. Reason: Decided I was wrong !

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    Re: clause

    I went:
    "Do you know" is a main clause.
    Following further thought, I realise that, while it's finite clause, it is not a classically main clause that can stand on its own. Or is it? Parsing isn't my forte.
    Anyone else have an opinion?

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    Re: clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Yes, they are both main clauses (containing a finite verb) joined by the conjunction "how often".
    No, now I understand.
    "Do you know" is a main clause and "how often.........city" is a subordinating clause.
    A noun clause is a subordinate clause which does the work of a noun in a complex sentence.
    Therefore the above sentence is a complex sentence in which "do you know" is a main clause and "how.....city" is a subordinate clause that does the object of "know".

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