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    #1

    from vs since

    any change in your mood since yesterday?

    or

    any change in your mood from yesterday?

    which one is better and why?

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    Re: from vs since

    Quote Originally Posted by kiranlegend View Post
    any change in your mood since yesterday?

    or

    any change in your mood from yesterday?

    which one is better and why?
    They are equally good.

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    I'm not a teacher, but i think that the better one is "since yesterday". We use since + the beginning of a period /from the past to now/. We can use "from" for periods of time, like from 1856 to 1920
    Sorry if i'm wrong. :)

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    Re: from vs since

    Quote Originally Posted by Shmi View Post
    I'm not a teacher, but i think that the better one is "since yesterday". We use since + the beginning of a period /from the past to now/. We can use "from" for periods of time, like from 1856 to 1920
    Sorry if i'm wrong. :)
    Hi, Shmi!
    I agree with you.

    First of all, there are no verbs at all in these sentences below, and they are 'tenseless' :

    a. any change in your mood since yesterday?
    b. any change in your mood from yesterday?

    I think the complete sentence would be...

    'Has there been any change in your mood since yesterday?'

    However... b. is possible if it is 'understood' like this:

    '(Has there been) any change in your mood from yesterday (up until now)?'

    So...the information in the parentheses is 'understood' here, which I think is why 2006 said both are equally good.

    I'm not a native speaker of English, so please forgive me if I'm wrong.


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    Re: from vs since

    A native speaker might say, "Any change in your mood since yesterday?", with the words, "Has there been..", as tzfujimino says, 'understood'.

    'has there been", Present Perfect tense, indicates a period of time from some moment in the past, till now. The preposition that fits with this is 'since'.

    The 'understood' verb form of Present Perfect introduces the idea of a time period - from then to now. 'from' refers to the actual 'change' in mood, asking if the mood is 'different'. You may well find people saying, "Any change in your mood from yesterday?", but be assured, your best choice is "Any change in your mood since yesterday?".
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    Re: from vs since

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    You may well find people saying, "Any change in your mood from yesterday?", but be assured, your best choice is "Any change in your mood since yesterday?".
    I disagree! This question doesn't necessarily have anything to do with perfect tense.
    [Is there] any change in your mood (since)(from)yesterday?

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    Re: from vs since

    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    I disagree! This question doesn't necessarily have anything to do with perfect tense.
    [Is there] any change in your mood (since)(from)yesterday?
    Yes but "since" is still better than "from".

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    Re: from vs since

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Yes but "since" is still better than "from".
    Why is it better? Maybe it's just what you are more used to.

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    #9

    Re: from vs since

    1. change since X
    2. change from X

    I would say that #1 focuses on the temporal aspect, and #2 on the metamorphic aspect.

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    #10

    Re: from vs since

    Quote Originally Posted by kiranlegend View Post
    any change in your mood since yesterday?

    or

    any change in your mood from yesterday?

    which one is better and why?
    2006 I agree to all you said to the others.

    Furthermore in the sentence
    Is there any change in your mood from yesterday?

    from is far better then since!
    the period from yesterday to now is stepped over actually. We are not interested in the period from yesterday to now. We compare yesterday's mood to the mood at this moment of asking the question.

    his mood was from yesterday and not from the time period since yesterday to now.

    How about your mood since yesterday to now?
    How about your mood from yesterday to now?
    This is a different period of time in which we are interested in his mood.
    Have you been changing your mood since yesterday? (during that period)
    Completely different question. he should write down a diagram which shows his mood clearly.

    Finally

    What about your mood?
    (now, only!) I'm not interested about your mood in the past at all


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    I worked from 7AM to now.
    I started at 7AM. I have worked since.


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