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    Which of the sentences 1 or 2 is correct (the same person is a doctor and a biology researcher):
    1-The doctor and biology researcher thinks that it will work.
    2-The doctor and the biology researcher thinks that it will work.




    3-We consulted the doctor and biology researcher you mentioned.
    4-We consulted the doctor and the biology researcher you mentioned.

    In which of these two sentences 3 and 4:
    a-the same person is a doctor and a biology researcher
    and in which:
    b-the doctor and the biology researcher are two different people

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    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post
    Which of the sentences 1 or 2 is correct (the same person is a doctor and a biology researcher):
    1-The doctor and biology researcher thinks that it will work.
    2-The doctor and the biology researcher thinks that it will work.




    3-We consulted the doctor and biology researcher you mentioned.
    4-We consulted the doctor and the biology researcher you mentioned.

    In which of these two sentences 3 and 4:
    a-the same person is a doctor and a biology researcher
    and in which:
    b-the doctor and the biology researcher are two different people
    (not a professional teacher) 1 and 3 suggest that the same person is both the doctor and the biology researcher. 2 and 4 suggest two different people, except that "thinks" would have to be "think" in 2. If 2 was intended to mean that the doctor and the biology researcher were one and the same, the construction does not seem natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuartnz View Post
    (not a professional teacher) 1 and 3 suggest that the same person is both the doctor and the biology researcher.
    It does in this context, where you have comparisons. But normally, at least to me, all of these sentences would suggest two people.
    "He's a doctor and biology researcher" is not ambiguous because you have a singular pronoun.
    "He's going to see the doctor and biology researcher" would almost always suggest two people, to me; just as "I'm going to see my dentist and my friend" would.
    A solution might be "He's going to see the doctor, the biology researcher".
    "I'm going to see my friend, the dentist". or
    "I'm going to see that doctor who researches biology"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    It does in this context, where you have comparisons.
    Sorry, but the use of "thinks" rather than "think" would have had me assuming one person even if the first sentence were offered on its own without any comparisons at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuartnz View Post
    Sorry, but the use of "thinks" rather than "think" would have had me assuming one person even if the first sentence were offered on its own without any comparisons at all.
    You don't need to be sorry just because you have a different opinion.
    If I heard 1. from a non-native speaker, I might assume he got the verb agreement wrong, rather than expressing the subject in an awkward way.
    Of course it's grammatically correct. But your rarely hear this sort of thing in real life (without context).

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    navi tasan, have I missed something? With additional context, and perhaps even intonation, most of the meanings are possible, perhaps even all given discourse analysis, irrespective of whether those meanings (i.e., same person or different people) are grammatical according to the semantic rules of Standard English or not.

    In looking at the syntax, thinks is a singular verb, which means the subject is singular. So, the unmarked meaning is that the doctor is also a biology researcher; i.e., an appositive-like construct. The marked meaning is that the doctor is not a biology researcher, and that there are two people. Given the sentence examples as is, that is, without context and/or intonantion/punctuation cues, my interpretations are based on syntax; i.e., subject-verb agreement:
    1- The doctor and biology researcher thinks that it will work.
    Unmarked: same person
    Marked: different people <with discourse analysis; i.e., intonation, pausing, etc.>

    Alternatives:
    The doctor who is also a biology researcher thinks ...
    The doctor who, by the way, happens to be a biology researcher, thinks ...
    As for example 2-, with the, the conjunction and, as you probably already know, admits ambiguity with or without the.

    3-We consulted the doctor and biology researcher you mentioned.
    Unmarked: same person
    Marked: different people
    4-We consulted the doctor and the biology researcher you mentioned.
    Unmarked: different people
    Marked: same person <with context, maybe>


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    Mr BlahBlah, a doctor and biology researcher, thinks it will work.

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