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    "to not" or "not to"

    Hello everyone!
    Do we say
    "It's bad to not eat your breakfast."
    or
    "It's bad not to eat your breakfast." ?
    Could anyone help me out here?
    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: "to not" or "not to"

    It's bad not to eat your breakfast.

    If it's infinitive (not a personal form) you put "not" before "to".


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    Quote Originally Posted by ladybird987 View Post
    It's bad not to eat your breakfast.

    If it's infinitive (not a personal form) you put "not" before "to".
    Hi, Ladybird987, Thank you for your reply, but I still don't quite understand this. Could you please be very kind to give me more examples?
    Thank you very much.

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    Re: "to not" or "not to"

    A very popular one: "to be or not to be"
    infinitive: to be
    personal forms:
    I am
    You are
    He, she, it is

    We are
    You are
    They are

    so, when you deal with an infinitive (e.g. to be)and a negation (not), you put "not" before it
    not to be

    I hope it will help :)

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    Re: "to not" or "not to"

    Quote Originally Posted by piginthesky View Post
    Hello everyone!
    Do we say
    "It's bad to not eat your breakfast."
    or
    "It's bad not to eat your breakfast." ?
    Could anyone help me out here?
    Thanks in advance!
    Hi, everyone!

    Well...I would say...

    "It's bad not to eat your breakfast." is correct.

    However...I've often heard native speakers say '....to not...' instead of '....not to...'

    I'm not a native speaker of English, so please forgive me if I'm wrong.

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    Re: "to not" or "not to"

    I think native speakers make more mistakes than people who learn the language - and it refers not only to English. Of course, teachers - first of all academic - and hobbysts pay attention to what they say, try to be correct and therefore they speak correctly, but I'm afraid it's minority.

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    Re: "to not" or "not to"

    Quote Originally Posted by ladybird987 View Post
    I think native speakers make more mistakes than people who learn the language - and it refers not only to English. Of course, teachers - first of all academic - and hobbysts pay attention to what they say, try to be correct and therefore they speak correctly, but I'm afraid it's minority.
    Well, mistakes are there to be made, but I wouldn't go that far to say that native speakers make more mistakes than people who learn the language. There's a great difference between mistakes made by native speakers of a language, and those of non-natives, though.


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    Re: "to not" or "not to"

    Quote Originally Posted by IvanV View Post
    Well, mistakes are there to be made, but I wouldn't go that far to say that native speakers make more mistakes than people who learn the language. There's a great difference between mistakes made by native speakers of a language, and those of non-natives, though.

    "to not <verb>" is not always wrong; often it's a stylistic variant.
    "To not remember the names of your children is terrible!"
    "I love holidays - it's a chance to go to the beach, to fish, to not have to worry about housework."
    Perhaps learners should stay clear of it though.

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