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    Smile past/present pariciple

    #1 children aged 6 to 10
    #2 children ageing 6 to 10

    #3 children of ages ranged from 6 to 10
    #4 children of ages ranging from 6 to 10
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    Could someone please explain why #2 and #3 are wrong grammaticially? Thanks in advance!



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    Edit Note: change wrong words from the original sentences as below:
    #3 children of ages arranged from 6 to 10
    #4 children of ages arrranging from 6 to 10
    Last edited by thedaffodils; 07-Aug-2008 at 16:05.

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    #2

    Re: past/present pariciple

    The second one could be grammatical, depending on its intended meaning. That is, syntax isn't the problem here, it's semantics. Say, in an alternate universe where children age rapidly by the hour:

    #2 children ageing [from] 6 to 10 hours will require ...
    => from is hidden


    Both of these are awkward:

    #3 children of ages arranged from 6 to 10
    => ages that are arranged

    #4 children of ages arranging from 6 to 10
    => that are arranged

    The problem, children of ages.

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    #3

    Re: past/present pariciple

    daffodils

    Ageing is having signs of old age eg. wrinkle is a sign of ageing/aging.

    I think you mean 'ranging' rather than 'arranging'.

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    Smile Re: past/present pariciple

    That is, syntax isn't the problem here, it's semantics.
    Soup,

    you hit the bull's eye! I should put it up with a context. A good lesson.

    I refer to childre who are 6, 7...10 years old.


    daffodils

    Ageing is having signs of old age eg. wrinkle is a sign of ageing/aging.

    I think you mean 'ranging' rather than 'arranging'.
    Tedtmc:

    Thank you for your answer and correction. I mean that. I have corrected.

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    But could any of you explain why I should switch the tense of 'range' from past participle to present participle in the contex of that I refer to in this post at your convenience? I have troubled you two much tonight.

    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    But could any of you explain why I should switch the tense of 'range' from past participle to present participle ...
    I'm not sure I understand your question.

    #2 children (who are) ageing 6 to 10
    #4 children of ages which range/ranging from 6 to 10
    Last edited by Soup; 08-Aug-2008 at 12:38.

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    #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    I'm not sure I understand your question.

    #2 children (who are) ageing 6 to 10
    #4 children of ages which range/ranging from 6 to 10
    Hello Soup,

    If I refer to the children ages 6 to 10, which one as below is correct?

    A) Children aged 6 to 10

    B) Children ageing 6 to 10

    Thank you!

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    Re: past/present pariciple

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hello Soup,

    If I refer to the children ages 6 to 10, which one as below is correct?

    A) Children aged 6 to 10

    B) Children ageing 6 to 10

    Thank you!

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    children ranging in /who range in age(s) from 6 to 10
    children aged 6 to 10 = children who are 6 to 10 years of age

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    Smile Re: past/present pariciple

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    children ranging in /who range in age(s) from 6 to 10
    children aged 6 to 10 = children who are 6 to 10 years of age
    Q1: children ranging ages from 6 to 10 = children aged 6 to 10?

    Q2: If Q1 is yes, then why is 'range' is in the tense of present participle while 'age' is in past participle?

    In other words, why is the sentence as below wrong?

    children ranged ages from 6 to 10?

    Thank you!

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    Re: past/present pariciple

    Q1: children ranging ages with ages ranging from 6 to 10 = children aged 6 to 10?

    Q2: If Q1 is yes, then why is 'range' is in the tense of present participle
    Do you mean continuous tense(ranging)?


    while 'age' is in past participle?
    'Aged' - in perfect tense serves as an adjective
    eg. children with name... - children named...
    children with number.. - children numbered

    In other words, why is the sentence as below wrong?

    children ranged ages from 6 to 10?
    children ranged?? children with range?

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    Tedtmc, thank you for your help.

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