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    #1

    no more than/ not more than

    HI, there!

    This is what I learned back in high school, but is it true?

    1. no more than = only

    I have no more than 10 dollars.= I have only 10 dollars.

    2. not more than = at most

    I have not more than 10 dollars.=I have at most 10 dollars.

    3. no less than = as much as

    I have no less than 100 dollars.=I have as much as 100 dollars.

    4. not less than=at least

    I have not less than 100 dollars.=I have at least 100 dollars.

    I'd really appreciate your replies.

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    Re: no more than/ not more than

    The sentences sound 'odd'. I fear, you may grasp the essential meanings and difference between these phrases, but not understand the context in which they are used.
    I have no more than 10 dollars
    If this is the reply to the question, "How much money have you got on you?"
    a native speaker would more likely reply, "About ten dollars, (I think)" or some variation - but far less likely to reply using the phrase 'no more than'.
    Compare:
    Girlfriend wants to buy an item at a night market in Thailand, and knows that haggling is part of the shopping experience. She asks her boyfriend how much he thinks she should agree to pay. He replies: "No more than ten dollars." That is, less than ten dollars if she can haggle well, but definitely, not to agree to pay more than ten dollars.
    What question did you have in mind, that 'no more than' would be part of the reply?

    not more than
    With the meaning 'at most':
    "We all read about the bomb in the plane that crashed on Lockerbie - you know, some place none of us had ever heard of, the other side of the planet. Then Tom leaves Australia, and is looking for a job in the UK, and ends up living in Scotland not more than 6 kilometers from there. He said, the first few weeks, it felt uncanny."

    "The bank says that the time to clear a cheque depends on whether the cheque is from a UK bank or overseas - it can be three days, but definitely not more than 7 working days."
    Last edited by David L.; 23-Aug-2008 at 08:49.

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    #3

    Exclamation Re: no more than/ not more than

    Quote Originally Posted by optimistic pessimist View Post
    HI, there!

    This is what I learned back in high school, but is it true?

    1. no more than = only

    I have no more than 10 dollars.= I have only 10 dollars.

    2. not more than = at most

    I have not more than 10 dollars.=I have at most 10 dollars.

    3. no less than = as much as

    I have no less than 100 dollars.=I have as much as 100 dollars.

    4. not less than=at least

    I have not less than 100 dollars.=I have at least 100 dollars.

    I'd really appreciate your replies.

    OP
    I think no more than can be used where there is an upper limit. So no more than 10 dollars means it can be 10 dollars or less than that. It is just like MRP (Maximum Retail Price)

    Not more than is used where there is a hard cap or fixed price- Neither more nor less. So I have not more than 10 dollars means it is neither less than 10 dollars nor less than that.

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