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    but·ton-down (btn-doun)
    adj.
    1. Having the ends of the collar fastened down by buttons: a button-down shirt.
    2. also but·toned-down (btnd-) Conservative, conventional, or unimaginative:
    I'm wondering whether a button-down shirt would be considered as conservative and conventional attire or not.

    Thanks in advance!


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    Generally both!

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    Hi Anglika,

    Thanks for your response.

    I mean whether the second entry derives from the first entry.

    Is "A button-down shirt" considered as conservative attire, so the word of 'button-down' refer to people who are conservative?
    Last edited by thedaffodils; 23-Aug-2008 at 20:21. Reason: grammatical error

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi Anglika,

    Thanks for your response.

    I mean whether the second entry derives from the first entry.

    Is "A button-down shirt" considered as conservative attire, so the word of 'button-down' refer to people whose are conservative?

    Yes. When someone is described as "buttoned-down" it means that they are very conservative, they always play by the rules, they never wear outrageous fashions, they drive a sedan rather than a sports car, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouisch View Post
    Yes. When someone is described as "buttoned-down" it means that they are very conservative, they always play by the rules, they never wear outrageous fashions, they drive a sedan rather than a sports car, etc.
    Much obliged, doll.

    By the way, is it inappropriate for me to address you 'doll'?

    Would it sound a bit of frivolous to you or other ladies if I were a man? I just learned it from Bart Simpson. Bart said that to his female teacher when she did a favor for him.


    doll
    n.
    1. A child's usually small toy having the likeness of a human.
    2. A pretty child.
    3. Slang
    a. An attractive person.
    b. A woman.
    c. A sweetheart or darling.
    d. A helpful or obliging person.

    doll - definition of doll by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Much obliged, doll.

    By the way, is it inappropriate for me to address you 'doll'?

    Were it sound a bit of frivolous to you or other ladies if I were a man? I just learned it from Bart Simpson. Bart said that to his female teacher when she did a favor for him.





    doll - definition of doll by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    Remember that Bart is a brat.

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    RonBee: Thank you!

    Ouisch: Sorry!

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    Can I address a little girl 'doll'?

    Scenario:

    Mary is my friend. One day she carried her 5-year-old daughter to go shoping, and I run into them.


    I greeted them, "hey, Mary; hey, doll."

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    Used as a friendly greeting or term of affection between women, "doll" if not offensive and perfectly acceptable. It's when a man addresses a woman (especially, say, a boss to his secretary) as "doll" that it is condescending and inappropriate. And it is certainly inappropriate for a young boy to address an older woman as "doll," but as RonBee said, Bart is a well-known brat.

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    Hi Ouisch,

    Thank you for your answer.

    Is it good for me to call my mother doll? We're both women but she is surely elder than me.

    Why is it condescending and inappropriate if a boss calls his secretary doll? Could you please tell the nuance of the word? The explantion of the dictionary don't indicate the negative side clearly of this word but all positive sides.

    Doll

    3. Slang
    a. An attractive person.
    b. A woman.
    c. A sweetheart or darling.
    d. A helpful or obliging person.

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