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    Can a clause have both active and passive verb in parallel?

    Dear Teachers and Colleagues,

    I have a question for an important cover letter about my dissertation, and appreciate your advice. What I want to know is whether or not gramatically a subject can take both active and passive verb together.

    My example sentence is:

    "As they made the transition, they brought along persons, networks, and institutions that had to be reworked under--and thus partially transformed--the socialist context."

    I think this sentence is OK because "that had to be reworked under...context" is just long adjectival subordinate clause that does not interfere with main verb "brought" but several English speakers have different opinions.

    I really appreciate your advice on this matter.

    Thank you,

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    Re: Can a clause have both active and passive verb in parallel?

    Quote Originally Posted by shimoda View Post
    Dear Teachers and Colleagues,

    I have a question for an important cover letter about my dissertation, and appreciate your advice. What I want to know is whether or not gramatically a subject can take both active and passive verb together. Yes, certainly it can. 'He loves everyone and is loved by everyone.'

    My example sentence is:

    "As they made the transition, they brought along persons, networks, and institutions that had to be reworked under--and thus partially transformed--the socialist context." What do the two -- mean in your sentence? Can you rewrite the sentence without the two sets of hyphens. Perhaps commas would be a better choice, but you decide.

    I think this sentence is OK because "that had to be reworked under...context" is just long adjectival subordinate clause that does not interfere with main verb "brought" but several English speakers have different opinions.

    I really appreciate your advice on this matter.

    Thank you,

    Yu
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    Re: Can a clause have both active and passive verb in parallel?

    Quote Originally Posted by shimoda View Post
    Dear Teachers and Colleagues,

    I have a question for an important cover letter about my dissertation, and appreciate your advice. What I want to know is whether or not gramatically a subject can take both active and passive verb together.

    My example sentence is:

    "As they made the transition, they brought along persons, networks, and institutions that had to be reworked under--and thus partially transformed--the socialist context."

    I think this sentence is OK because "that had to be reworked under...context" is just long adjectival subordinate clause that does not interfere with main verb "brought" but several English speakers have different opinions.

    I really appreciate your advice on this matter.

    Thank you,

    Yu
    It's awkward. It might be possible theoretically, but the meaning here doesn't flow easily as it should. Even the shorter: "They brought institutions that had to be reworked, and transform, the socialist context." sounds strange. "had to be" applies to reworked, but transform requires "had to".
    I would definitely change it.

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    Re: Can a clause have both active and passive verb in parallel?

    Thanks to both of you for your kind answers. To respond to first poster, intention of double em dash here is to indicate strong parenthetical statement. Rewritten with other punctuation, -- could be replaced with () or ,. To wit:

    "They brought along institutions that had to be reworked under (and thus partially transformed) the socialist context."


    To respond to second poster, I appreciate your answer but do not understand why you say "transform" must be preceded by "had to" in this context to convey the perfect tense.

    Thank you all so much,

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    Re: Can a clause have both active and passive verb in parallel?

    Quote Originally Posted by shimoda View Post
    Dear Teachers and Colleagues,



    "As they made the transition, they brought along persons, networks, and institutions that had to be reworked under--and thus partially transformed--the socialist context."

    Yu
    I would just use commas there, and if you are concerned about having "too many" commas some of your commas can be omitted.
    But I agree with Raymott that your sentence is not very good; in particular, I have questions about some of your word choices.
    1...'people' is a more natural word than "persons".
    2..."reworked" is not usually used for people. Choose a different word.
    3...By "socialist context", do you mean the socialist system? the socialist environment?
    4..."and thus partially transformed" means that the reworking under socialism inevitably had to change socialism. If that is what you meant, I don't think it is a logical conclusion. Maybe you mean 'and at the same time also partially transformed'.

    I hope I haven't misunderstood your intended meaning too much. Try writing the sentence again.

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    Re: Can a clause have both active and passive verb in parallel?

    Quote Originally Posted by shimoda View Post
    To respond to second poster, I appreciate your answer but do not understand why you say "transform" must be preceded by "had to" in this context to convey the perfect tense.
    Yes, ignore that bit. I tripped myself up trying to fix your sentence.
    It needs rephrasing so that you don't have the active voice interpolation into the passive voice clause.

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