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  1. plshelp
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    use of 'whom'

    Do the following sentences have the same meaning?

    - You must stand up for the freedom of others with whom you disagree.
    - You must stand up for the freedom of others that you disagree.

    If yes, which one would a native speaker prefer?
    If no, why?

    May I also know more about the use of 'preposition'+'whom', such as 'for whom' and 'to whom'. How to determine which preposition should be used when I use such sentence structure?

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    Re: use of 'whom'

    - You must stand up for the freedom of others with whom you disagree.
    - You must stand up for the freedom of others that you disagree with.
    Now they mean the same.

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    Re: use of 'whom'

    Quote Originally Posted by plshelp View Post
    Do the following sentences have the same meaning?

    - You must stand up for the freedom of others with whom you disagree.
    - You must stand up for the freedom of others that you disagree.

    If yes, which one would a native speaker prefer?
    If no, why?

    May I also know more about the use of 'preposition'+'whom', such as 'for whom' and 'to whom'. How to determine which preposition should be used when I use such sentence structure?
    A more natural sentence is 'You must stand up for the freedom of those you disagree with.'

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    Re: use of 'whom'

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    - You must stand up for the freedom of others with whom you disagree.
    - You must stand up for the freedom of others that you disagree with.
    Now they mean the same.
    hi!
    isn't it considered gramatically incorrect to end a sentence with a preposition?
    thanks

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    Re: use of 'whom'

    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    hi!
    isn't it considered gramatically incorrect to end a sentence with a preposition?
    thanks
    Not in this situation, no.

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    Re: use of 'whom'

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Not in this situation, no.
    thanks.
    could you please provide some examples in which it's wrong to use the preposition in the end of the sentence?
    thanks.

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    Re: use of 'whom'

    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    thanks.
    could you please provide some examples in which it's wrong to use the preposition in the end of the sentence?
    thanks.
    Where are you at?

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    Re: use of 'whom'

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Where are you at?
    That sounds normal if the stress is on at.
    It means "What planet are you on?"

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    Re: use of 'whom'

    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    hi!
    isn't it considered gramatically incorrect to end a sentence with a preposition?
    thanks
    No, it was about a hundred years ago.
    It would cause you less trouble just to forget that rule.

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