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    Question Great Vowel Shift

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    I have a word 'seat' and have to trascript it in Modern English just after GVS, is that correct:

    if the word in present day english is : /siːt/ so looking back in Early Modern English just after GVS it was: /sɛ:t/ ????

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    Re: Great Vowel Shift

    Quote Originally Posted by hazeleyedgirl View Post
    Hi

    I have a word 'seat' and have to trascriBE it inTO Modern English just after GVS, is that correct:

    if the word in present day english is : /siːt/ so looking back in Early Modern English just after GVS it was: /sɛ:t/ ????
    I believe so*, in a very simplified view of the GVS. But most modern commentators would not see the Great Vowel Shift as a sudden event, so the phrase "just after GVS" is problematic as the GVS (if it makes sense to use the term at all - Wikipedia's happy with it but I seem to remember that Mugglestone's History of the English Language (OUP 2006) recorded a few dissenting voices) took place as a series of inter-related changes over 300-400 years. The /ɛ:/ -> /e:/ move happened around the 14th and 15th centuries, and the /e:/ vowel that represented the "ea" in seat didn't move all the way to /i:/ until some time in the 16th.

    So, as usual, you need to question the terms of the question.

    Read more here: Great Vowel Shift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    PS * Perhaps not, on second thoughts. Wasn't /ɛ:/ the pre-GVS version?
    Last edited by BobK; 06-Sep-2008 at 16:38. Reason: Added PS

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    Re: Great Vowel Shift

    Quote Originally Posted by hazeleyedgirl View Post
    Hi

    I have a word 'seat' and have to trascript it in Modern English just after GVS, is that correct:

    if the word in present day english is : /siːt/ so looking back in Early Modern English just after GVS it was: /sɛ:t/ ????
    Now that's a tough one!
    Here's some entries from Oxford:(and my suggested pronunciation) It doesn't look very stable!

    c1200 ORMIN 11059 He turrnde waterr inntill win..Att an bridaless sæte. / sætə /
    a1300 E.E. Psalter cxxxviii. 2 ou knew mi seete and mi risinge. /sɛːtə/
    a1400 Octavian 1002 He fonde the boordys covyrde alle, And redy to go to mete;
    The maydyn..In a kyrtulle there sche stode, And bowne sche was to sete. /sɛtə/
    c1420 Chron. Vilod. 2747 is bysone mone full wery of sete he was. /sɛtə/
    1545 Reg. Privy Council Scot. I. 5 Becaus of the fere of the pest that is laytlie risyn in the toun of Edinburcht, the seite of Sessioun may nocht surelie remaine thairin /seɪtə/
    1560 J. DAUS tr. Sleidane's Comm. 150 Of the counsell, for that it is the hyghe judicial seate of the churche [ecclesiæ supremum tribunal]. ?
    1567 Gude & Godlie Ball. 102 Full slyddrie is the sait that thay on sit. /saɪt/
    1577 B. GOOGE Heresbach's Husb. III. (1586) 115b, The ridgebone ouer the shoulders being something hie, giues the horseman a better seate. ?
    1667 DK. NEWCASTLE Meth. Dressing Horses 205 The Seat is so much..as it is the only thing that makes a Horse go Perfectly./siːt/
    1693 LOCKE Educ. §186. 237 It conduces to give a Man a firm and graceful Seat on Horseback.

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