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    tenses II

    Part 1:
    Consider:
    A-I will have seen him on Monday.
    Isn't this sentence ambiguous. I think it could mean two things:
    1-I will see him before Monday.
    2-My seeing him will have taken place on Monday.
    (You are going to see him on Tuesday. But I'll have seen him on Monday. I will have seen him on Monday, that is before you see him on Tuesday.)
    Is this analysis correct?

    Part 2:
    Could the sentence:
    B-I had seen him on Monday.
    mean that I saw him before Monday?
    Consider:
    C-I had already seen him on Monday.

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    Re: tenses II

    Commentary.

    Part 1:
    Consider:
    A-I will have seen him on Monday.
    Isn't this sentence ambiguous. I think it could mean two things:
    1-I will see him before Monday.
    2-My seeing him will have taken place on Monday.
    (You are going to see him on Tuesday. But I'll have seen him on Monday. I will have seen him on Monday, that is before you see him on Tuesday.)
    Is this analysis correct?

    Part 2:
    Could the sentence:
    B-I had seen him on Monday.
    mean that I saw him before Monday?
    Consider:
    C-I had already seen him on Monday.
    The phrase "on Monday" indicates to me that you saw him that day. If I wanted to say "I will see him before Monday" I would use by and not on.

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    1-I will see him before Monday. - not really, IMO. It means you'll see him on Monday but are thinking about the act as completed. It isn't too happy a sentence. 'By' wouldbe closer to the 'before' meaning, although it's not exactly right.

    2-I'd say this is making an assumption about the past- you're trying to work out which day it was, then you remember

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    Re: tenses II

    What about this one:
    A-"On Monday, I had already met him."
    Can't this mean that I had met him before Monday?

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    Re: tenses II

    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan
    What about this one:
    A-"On Monday, I had already met him."
    Can't this mean that I had met him before Monday?
    Yes.

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    #6
    It can, but it's a strange sentence.

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