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    Wink King & Queen

    Hello!

    The wife of a monarch is called queen; A female monarch is called queen too.

    But why is the husband of a monarch not called king?


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    Re: King & Queen

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    Hello!

    The wife of a monarch is called queen; A female monarch is called queen too.

    But why is the husband of a monarch not called king?
    The wife of a king is not necessarily the queen, and the husband of a queen is not necessarily the king. They may be 'princess consort' and 'prince consort'. Their relationship to the ruler of a state does not necessarily place them in the position of a ruler.

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    Hi Clark,

    Thank you for your reply.

    There were the title of queen for some spouses of British male monarches. Was there any example that the title of King was given to a spouse of a female monarch in the UK history or the histories of the other European countries?


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    Re: King & Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi Clark,

    Thank you for your reply.

    There were the title of queen for some spouses of British male monarches. Was there any example that the title of King was given to a spouse of a female monarch in the UK history or the histories of the other European countries?
    William of Orange, the husband of Mary II. They had equal powers. (1689 - 1702)

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    Smile Re: King & Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    William of Orange, the husband of Mary II. They had equal powers. (1689 - 1702)
    Thank you for the information, Clark. This is a special case I think.

    I wonder whether there was any case that a female monarch who had sole power granted her husband the title of king.

    Many kings who had sole power and their wives were queen.

    Must the title of a king have the power? And it is not necessary for a queen to have the power?


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    Re: King & Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Thank you for the information, Clark. This is a special case I think.

    I wonder whether there was any case that a female monarch who had sole power granted her husband the title of king.

    Many kings who had sole power and their wives were queen.

    Must the title of a king have the power? And it is not necessary for a queen to have the power?
    No. Queens in their own right tended to hang onto power, and the last thing they wanted was for a husband to take over.

    Mary and William are something of an exception as he was in his own right king {Elector} of Orange, and when Mary succeeded her sister Anne, whose own husband was never more than that, William negotiated the right to be crowned king in England as part of the deal.

    Wives of kings were crowned as consorts, but only if the king was in some way incapacitated or abroad fighting were they given power. There are many examples of queens ruling in their husbands' place, but that power ceased on his return.

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    Re: King & Queen

    It was only yesterday - in a programme about a woman who had been 'queen' only by virtue of her husband's kingship (I wasn't listening carefully enough to remember who it was ) - that I met the term 'queen regnant'.

    (Originally, 'queen' was just another word for 'woman' (Online Etymology Dictionary) whereas 'king' (Online Etymology Dictionary ) had had its regal (or at least noble) connotations for longer. I suppose this accounts for the word 'queen' being less 'automatically' associated with regal power - though women, of course, have other powers .)

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    Anglika and BobK,

    Thank you very much for your answers.

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    Re: King & Queen

    And remember that Camilla will not become Queen of England when/if Charles becomes King, because the people won't accept it. Monarchs don't always get their own way these days.


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    And remember that Camilla will not become Queen of England when/if Charles becomes King, because the people won't accept it. Monarchs don't always get their own way these days.
    Bit previous. It hasn't come to it yet and may never come. If it is decided to crown her, that is that. If she takes the line that she prefers to remain as consort but not crowned as queen, that is also that.

    This is not a personal decision, but one that will be made after long consultation with constitutional lawyers.

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