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    prove my worth/value

    Hi,
    I have found the sentence "prove my worth" on many web sites but cannot find "prove my value" that easily.
    On the other hand, it's not difficult to find "prove the value of", like in "Artists can prove the value of their work by keeping good records of ...". Is there any reason for not saying "I have to prove my value.", please?
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    Re: prove my worth/value

    To understand why, first ask yourself, why would a person have to do either?

    Can you answer that first? What situation comes to mind?

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    Re: prove my worth/value

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    To understand why, first ask yourself, why would a person have to do either?

    Can you answer that first? What situation comes to mind?
    Thanks.

    A guy on a TV show was defeated in the previous season. Now he says he wants "to prove his worth", that is, he wants to prove that he's a good truck driver.

    Many dictionaries present "worth" and "value" as synonyms and that's my main doubt: if they are synonyms, what kind of subtlety makes these words not to be interchangeable in every situation?

    In the text bellow, "valuable" is used and I wonder if it could be replaced by "worthy":

    "When a flu pandemic hits, utility workers and truck drivers will be as valuable in resolving the ensuing crisis as doctors and nurses will be, ..."

    I'd like to know what are the rule and logic behind it.

    Thanks again.
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    Re: prove my worth/value

    Hi,
    I wonder if a native would like to answer this post.
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    Re: prove my worth/value

    In the case of the valuable truck drivers, the reference is to the value/worth of their services. However, if we say "worthy" truck drivers, we begin to judge the drivers themselves. Are they worthy? We don't know, or care, at this point. In fact, we haven't even decided "worthy of what." They are valuable in that they perform a valued service.

    To be worthy is to have merit, character, as an individual.

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    Re: prove my worth/value

    Quote Originally Posted by jlinger View Post
    In the case of the valuable truck drivers, the reference is to the value/worth of their services. However, if we say "worthy" truck drivers, we begin to judge the drivers themselves. Are they worthy? We don't know, or care, at this point. In fact, we haven't even decided "worthy of what." They are valuable in that they perform a valued service.

    To be worthy is to have merit, character, as an individual.
    Thanks.
    I think I begin to see some light at the end of the tunnel yet it still is a little bit blurred.
    When used with people, "worth" expresses the value of the person in terms of character, merit, expertise and so on. "Value" refers to what that person can produce, the services they can provide, the outcome of their work.
    Is that true?
    Thanks.
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    Re: prove my worth/value

    Right on! It was once said that the value of a human being was 98 cents (US). That was the sum total of all the minerals, etc., in a human body. I think it's probably gone up to $2.50 with inflation.

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    Re: prove my worth/value

    Quote Originally Posted by jlinger View Post
    Right on! It was once said that the value of a human being was 98 cents (US). That was the sum total of all the minerals, etc., in a human body. I think it's probably gone up to $2.50 with inflation.


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    Re: prove my worth/value

    A guy on a TV show was defeated in the previous season. Now he says he wants "to prove his worth", that is, he wants to prove that he's a good truck driver.


    He was defeated. He's not as good as others. He thinks he is and wants to prove it, to prove how good he is: 'to prove his worth'.

    When someone has 'proved their worth', say, as a team member on projects, that one could say "we value his contribution to the team"

    "When a flu pandemic hits, utility workers and truck drivers will be as valuable in resolving the ensuing crisis as doctors and nurses will be, ..."

    YES

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